Need help structuring this deal

Need help structuring this deal

Real Estate Investor · Hampton Roads, VA · Member since 2014 · 8 posts · 4 votes

Hello all!

I have a motivated seller (from Craigslist, btw) who wants to sell his house to avoid foreclosure. He says he's not in foreclosure yet...only forbearance for the next few months. He owe's about $3,000 to bring the payments current. The ARV of the house is about $77,000 and he says he still owes $60,000. He says he 100% wants to get rid of the house and only wants to pocket $2,000 after all is said and done. Additionally, the house is in good condition and has a brand new roof.

I was thinking a sub2 deal was the best way to go (if seller agrees, of course)...is that correct?  Did I provide enough information to get guidance on this?

3/1, central A/C, brick/sheet rock, new ceiling, 882 sq ft.

Thank you all in advance for your expertise!

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  • Rental Property Investor · Mercer Island, WA · Member since 2008 · 22k+ posts · 14k+ votes
    12y

    $60K + $3K to reinstate the loan plus $2K cash in his pocket makes this a really thin deal. If it needs any work (it does) there's no deal here for a rehabber, if the ARV number is accurate.

  • Real Estate Investor · Hampton Roads, VA · Member since 2014 · 8 posts · 4 votes
    12y

    Thanks, @Jon Holdman.  That's what my gut said.  I'm getting in touch with him again, as he said he was "shooting from the hip" with some of his numbers, but I figured it would be a stretch to make this work.  Thanks, again for your guidance!

  • Specialist · Westlake Village, CA · Member since 2010 · 1k+ posts · 781 votes
    12y

    what will it rent for?

    What are the terms of the mortgage?

  • Real Estate Investor · Hampton Roads, VA · Member since 2014 · 8 posts · 4 votes
    12y

    @Ellis San Jose, I'm getting the terms of the mortgage today.   It will rent for between $850 - $900 per month.

  • Real Estate Investor · Somerset, KY · Member since 2011 · 211 posts · 64 votes
    12y

    Doesn't sound like a deal after closing cost, $5K in expenses, repairs etc to me. Sorry to be honestly harsh. Best of luck.

  • Real Estate Investor · Hampton Roads, VA · Member since 2014 · 8 posts · 4 votes
    12y

    No problem @Jared K..  I appreciate the info.  This is stuff I need to know to be successful.  Thanks.

  • Specialist · Westlake Village, CA · Member since 2010 · 1k+ posts · 781 votes
    12y

    Way too skinny for a flip but may work for a hold depending on the terms of the loan and the market conditions in the neighborhood.

  • Real Estate Investor · Hampton Roads, VA · Member since 2014 · 8 posts · 4 votes
    12y

    @Ellis San Jose, I just went and spoke with the seller.  He really wants to get rid of it like, yesterday to avoid foreclosure or short sale.  He has a 30 year loan, 5.1% interest rate.  Mortgage is 540 per month and he was renting at 900.

    However, he bought it at 70,000 and still owes 64,000 plus 3,000 to make the loan current...plus an additional 2,900 in judgements against the property...plus probably 10,000 in repairs. 

    Doesn't seem like this could work...in my amateur opinion.

  • Specialist · Westlake Village, CA · Member since 2010 · 1k+ posts · 781 votes
    12y

    When did he buy the property & how many more years are left on the loan?

    30 years fixed at 5.1% is a nice loan. Is it fixed with no balloon payment or interest rate adjustment clause?

    $540/month doesn't compute for that loan amount & monthly payment. Does that include any other items PMI, insurance, Property Taxes etc?

    What could it rent for in top condition?

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