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David Walton
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Should we or shouldn't we expand to the MTR market?

David Walton
  • Property Manager
  • Denver
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Hey all! My company currently manages LTR's throughout the Denver metro area. In the last few months we have received several requests to work in the MTR market and want to vet it out. Looking for some advice on the following:

1. How do fees change when managing LTR's versus MTR's/Corporate Housing? Currently, we use a flat rate model and charge leasing and renewal fees for LTR's but that clearly won't work for a MTR. We thought maybe a straight % base per month without any other fees might be the easiest?

2. I assume we'll have to restructure our lease with the help of our attorney to include furniture damages, notice requirements, etc but if anyone else has anything that was super beneficial to their MTR lease, I'd love to hear it.

3. Does anyone have any standard lists or furniture expectations for owners who want to include furniture? I currently do a liability waiver for any LTR owners that want to leave furniture so that we are removed from dealing with any damaged or replacement furniture needed. I realize that managing furniture is important with furnished units so just seeking standards and expectations that others have implemented.

4. How do others manage utilities? Right now, we are removed from putting any utilities in our name and ask the residents to do it or the owners to manage and we can do all inclusive billing to residents, if needed. I know that with MTR's, we'll probably need to setup WiFi at a minimum, just deciding if that's on us or the owners. 

Appreciate any and all insight!! Trying to really weigh this out and decide if the extra time is worth it. 

David Walton

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Jamie Banks #2 Medium-Term Rentals Contributor
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Jamie Banks #2 Medium-Term Rentals Contributor
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Reston, VA
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Hi David! I own a MTR property management company and I can attest to the demand of MTR property management. I've been asked multiple times to manage MTRs in Denver myself but it's not a market we plan to operate in. With MTRs growing as an asset class there's not many managers who are equipped to handle MTRs. For context I solely manage MTRs apart from 2 MTR/STR hybrids where we STR the gaps between MTR bookings.

Here's my input on the questions you asked. 

1. I charge a straight % per month on top of a set up fee to onboard properties to my software. I have friends in the space who charge a monthly tech fee to cover the PMS charges they incur. 

2. I would include a utility max that outlines the max amount the owners are willing to pay for each utility. 

3. My team uses AI to figure this out since it varies by property type, size, and target tenant type. For instance, our larger properties tend to be more child friendly and will include items needed for younger children while our smaller properties cater to traveling professionals and always include a desk, monitor, comfortable office chair, and desk accessories. 

4. Put it on the owners. I made the mistake of putting utilities in my / my companies name when I first started out and do not recommend it. I require utilities to be in the owners name in my co-hosting agreement and I ask the owners to share the login information of the utilities incase my team needs to access it in case of emergencies. MTRs have more of a hospitality aspect then LTRs so I have a team of VAs who manages small to large maintenance requests from wifi slowing down to toilet replacements. 

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