The first time we tried our MTR as an STR (it didn't go great) + my thoughts

The first time we tried our MTR as an STR (it didn't go great) + my thoughts

Real Estate Agent · Winston Salem, NC · Member since 2016 · 83 posts · 122 votes

We turned on our first MTR unit in early 2022. It's a great 900 sqft 1/1 unit in a duplex, that we've been renting for 2200/month (just bumped up to 2400 per month) with little to no vacancy.

Fast forward to a couple months ago (February 2023) I had a client who was moving into town to purchase a primary home. He knew we did mid-term rentals and wanted to stay in one of our units and the 1/1 was perfect for him. His wife just got a job and they needed to move into town so she could start and get the w2 so they could qualify for a new mortgage, so they needed a couple months of runway. We booked them off platform to save them fees and offered to be flexible on their end date. 

Fast forward again, the stay went great, we found their house, but the flexibility we offered made it so we didn't have another booking immediately after. We had bookings scheduled from May - August already but a month gap in April with no bookings. But we've been wanting to experiment with STR and Furniture Market, a huge worldwide event happens nearby in April and we knew we could jack up our prices so we did. And we booked our first STR for four nights at triple our normal rate (yay!).

And the tenant was terrible (boo!). We were asked: "Why don't you provide shower caps," "Why don't you light citronella candles outside the front door when we arrive so a bug doesn't get inside?" "Why doesn't your HVAC work, it won't heat the unit to 80 degrees." They were from Florida.

We also were told last minute: "By the way we're bringing our support animal, we have paperwork saying so so you don't have a problem with that right? It's a cat." Airbnb doesn't recognize cats as support animals by the way. I don't think anyone does except this random "doctor" in Florida. But we are pet friendly anyway so.... fine.

The tenant let us know at 3am she was running the cleaning cycle on our oven.

When she left she had taken all the shelving out of the freezer (??). And she removed everything off the counter top (coffee pot, spice rack, etc) and put them in random cabinets (???). And something peed the bed. I say something because it was genuinely unclear if it was a human or a cat. The spot was suspiciously located at crotch level right where a human might be sleeping and didn't smell like a cat. But also they had a cat. 

Anyway, bad first STR experience.

I'm sure we "won the lottery" with this tenant. Not all, if not most STR tenants are like this. But I did come away with this thought:

It seems to me it's more likely short term tenants have a higher degree of... entitlement? Expectation? They are more likely to want to be pampered, want a more white glove experience. Again, certainly not all people feel that way, just that they are MORE LIKELY to feel that way than say... a mid-term rental.

My experience with mid-term rentals is... they just want to be left alone. They are in town for a long period of time and are living their life, usually related to work or some other functional reason, not seeking out an experience. They are very easy to work with and are truly grateful for a place that can feel like home away from home. 

I had mentioned this in another post, but related to this. With a short term rental, if the tenant is there for 4 days and they have a problem on 1 day, 25% of their stay is a problem. If a tenant is there for 60 days and they have a problem on 1 day, 1.6% of their stay is a problem. Issues are smaller, more grace is given.

Anyway, had to share the "horror story" and my takeaway from it. 

What other differences have you found between STR and MTR rentals?

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Bonnie LowPro Member
Lender · Asheville, NC · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
3y

Wow, that's terrible that you experienced that. Sounds like your STR guest was a doozy. I agree with you, though. My MTR guests very much just want to be left alone. They are super low maintenance and cause very little wear and tear on the property. My theory is that they're working long hours and just use the space to sleep primarily. We just bought our first STR and I hear all the horror stories and I must admit that I'm a) a tad worried and b) also expecting something to go wrong at some point. I'm adopting the hope for the best, plan for the worst school of thought with our STR but also know that guest screening is very important in this niche. And, I truly believe that most people who are going to be a pain leave clues from the very start. So I'm prepared to turn down anyone who raises a red flag. It's jut not worth it.

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  • Bonnie LowPro Member
    Lender · Asheville, NC · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    3y

    Wow, that's terrible that you experienced that. Sounds like your STR guest was a doozy. I agree with you, though. My MTR guests very much just want to be left alone. They are super low maintenance and cause very little wear and tear on the property. My theory is that they're working long hours and just use the space to sleep primarily. We just bought our first STR and I hear all the horror stories and I must admit that I'm a) a tad worried and b) also expecting something to go wrong at some point. I'm adopting the hope for the best, plan for the worst school of thought with our STR but also know that guest screening is very important in this niche. And, I truly believe that most people who are going to be a pain leave clues from the very start. So I'm prepared to turn down anyone who raises a red flag. It's jut not worth it.

  • Investor · Youngstown, OH · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    3y

    Please tell me you gave the guest a RAVING review! What a jerk. 

  • Real Estate Agent · Chicago, IL · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    3y

    @Evan Kline

    It does seem like you had bad luck with hosting this particular guest. I don't own any STRs or MTRs but I think your assumptions about the differences are generally true on average. I expect fewer people are taking 1-2 month vacations and like you said are staying that long likely for some work related thing.

  • Rental Property Investor · Ocean Springs, MS · Member since 2022 · 349 posts · 301 votes
    3y

    I always suggest waterproof mattress covers, I have seen some people even use two at once, because if I have a couple booking my stay I know that it is possible they may have relations and I also know that can result in a crotch level spot that can resemble urine, so I don't get too worked up about it. I keep extra mattress covers and switch it out and wash the old one. Easy peasy!

  • Real Estate Consultant · Denver, CO · Member since 2021 · 666 posts · 389 votes
    3y

    @Evan Kline Your observations about the differences between STRs and MTRs is good. Most STR tenants are not as challenging as the one you had though. If you are new to this STR to MTR switch or the other way around, be sure your CPA/tax professional is up-to-date with the regulations. Most are not. STRs are depreciated over 39 years and MTR are considered LTRs (residential) and are depreciated over 27.5 years. A quality engineering-based cost segregation study can not only get you back on track and update your tax filing, it can also keep a significant amount of money in your bank account that you would ordinarily pay in taxes. Yes, this works for condos and single family rental properties as well as small to large commercial properties.

  • Investor · SC NC, VA · Member since 2020 · 1k+ posts · 756 votes
    3y

    Like others who may have read this, I can’t help but chuckle and say welcome to the service world!

    I had built up 55 LTR units before deciding to start selling them under 1031’s and purchasing a couple of large beach houses and commercial strip malls.

    Now, the LTR’s were no piece of cake.  I had to deal with drunk boyfriends, unbelievable damage, noise complaints, lost jobs, no money at Christmas, tenants that one moment had a cookout together then called me to complain about each other, the list could go on.  20 years of this made me a little numb.

    With two oceanfront luxury beach houses on STR you would think the people that could afford the $6-19k per week would be more responsible. Not on your life! I've had them install bidet seats that then had to be removed, ruin linen by using bedspreads on the beach, put up a dart board on my siding, tear the facing off a couch because they thought it opened like a trundle, break lamps, etc…

    It’s the life we’ve chosen.  Just make sure to inspect when they move out and take pictures of any damage.   Also, NEVER forego getting the full security deposit. 

  • Real Estate Agent · Wilmington, NC · Member since 2021 · 166 posts · 116 votes
    3y

    Wow, tough guest! 

    I'd have to agree with you from what I've seen lots of MTR guests are traveling nurses or people moving and need a place in between houses. Those people, like you said, are usually going to be more graceful and don't expect citronella candles and a red carpet leading to the door!

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