The future of RE investing - 5 and 10 year outlook

The future of RE investing - 5 and 10 year outlook

Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2015 · 39 posts · 39 votes

The future of Real Estate investing is in danger, and it's going to take a lot of creativity and unity to thrive over the next decade. 

Those of you who've been in it for the past 10 or 20 years can see the writing on the wall, as you've had it "easy" compared to now and the future.
BRRR method has become next to impossible in good markets. Competition is insane.

It takes a lot of courage to go against the grain, to risk shame and censorship to simply state what should be obvious to everyone by now. The controversial matters I'm about to discuss are now public knowledge, however only a few years ago were completely unknown to the masses, except to very savvy (or paranoid) "conspiracy theorists" and there were massive efforts by governments and Big Tech to censor such subjects. Ask yourself - WHY?

If you can swallow your pride, political bias and ego for a moment, I promise this post will provide value to you in the end, no matter your position.

Before you make a quick judgement and skip this post, to be clear I was once a full-fledged Democrat, but now I am NOT affiliated with ANY political "side" as I believe the entire political, two-party system is defunct and corrupt - I mean just look at Nancy Pelosi (D) and Mitch McConnell (R) - a perfect example of how old greedy people remain in power and get to control and affect our lives. Why don't we have term limits?!!! 

Moving on...unfortunately political influence plays a HUGE part in Real Estate and that includes ownership and investing. If you ignore or deny this fact you are either very naïve/uninformed or complicit with bias towards a political agenda or mainstream narrative. 

Despite what traditional economics would teach you, an often overlooked fact is that big corporations, politicians and presidents all have an impact on the overall economy, whether or not we enter senseless wars and inflation - just look at what's happening now vs before our current... "President" who can barely string together a sentence let alone command an army. As a nation, our GDI and GDP are not looking good and we're in more debt than ever before. 

Outside of that, consider what has happened just in the past few years for example, such as communities all over the country where BLM riots occurred that resulted in severe widespread property damage affecting surrounding communities for months later, lowering property values which allowed certain large investors including BlackRock to buy up these areas cheap, with and without leverage. BlackRock, Vanguard and State Street together own nearly ALL assets in the entire world! When you follow the money and dig deeper, you uncover that in that example, the BLM riots were largely funded by Mr. Soros whom has communist and Marxist political views. His famous quote, "Never Let a Good Crisis Go to Waste". And now you have Democratic cities such as San Francisco, Chicago, Los Angeles, and New York allowing rampant migration, crime and retail theft to continue which affects everything from business to Real Estate, to every day life.

Then, you've got the whole p@ndemic situation that caused people to move out of highly restrictive states & cities where lockdowns caused massive job losses, business closures, suicides, etc., these people who were fed up moved into more "free" states such as Arizona, Texas, Georgia and Florida. If you do enough research, you can find out that even the Pl@nnedemic was political in more ways than one. Evidence is now clear that CV19 leaked from a lab, and Klaus Schwab of the WEF wrote a book about CV19 and the "Great Reset" TWO MONTHS before it occurred and was quoted saying "The p@ndemic represents a rare but narrow window of opportunity [...] to reset our world". Look up Event 201, Agenda 21 and agenda 2030. These are not "conspiracy theories" rather conspiracy facts that are now public knowledge for all to see. You just have to ignore the "Fact Checkers" as they are actually biased liars paid to censor the truth. Dig deep enough and you'll find the truth - think alternative media sources. Twitter (aka X) has more valuable and truthful insight than any "news" corporation (btw ALL of which are owned by just a handful of conglomerate companies).

Here is how all of these agendas will affect Real Estate, ownership and investing over the next 5 and 10 years:

Agenda 21/2030: For more than 20 years, the United Nations has been slowly implementing a plan with global governments to gain more control and consolidation of ALL resources around the world, which includes restricting individual property rights and redistributing wealth from developed to developing nations in the name of questionable climate change "crisis".  They want a one world government and one world currency. 

What does this all mean to us investors? Within two years or less, we will witness a major market crash caused by a combination of another pandemic and war, and more cyber attacks on our infrastructure. Even without all of this we are already on the path towards a de-dollarization and a Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC). BRICS currency is on its way to launch very soon. Bitcoin can still make you rich as it is a finite asset. At the very least, it is a hedge. During this two to three year period, we will see massive inflation even worse than now, major hikes in interest rates and increasing difficulty to buy, flip and even hold real estate properties - especially SFH. BlackRock and similar funds will continue to by lucrative assets, outbidding smaller investors and that includes multi-family properties. They will end up turning SFH residences and communities into tiny multi apartment dwellings. In order for us regular investors to still find opportunities after all these massive events and changes, we're going to have to work together and utilize pooled resources, creative financing, sweat equity and collaborative development projects.

By the year 2030, according to psycho Schwab and the WEF "You will own nothing and be happy" so that means it will become increasingly difficult to acquire and hold onto real estate per their maniacal plans. What it really means is that only the ultra rich and as well as WEF sponsored, ESG driven organizations will own apartment buildings and other investment properties. The best way we can circumvent this is to network with each other and try to acquire as much LAND as possible and come up with plans to build our own sustainable eco-friendly communities. The further away from major cities, the less of an impact these agendas have on us. In general, land is the key! We need more self-sufficient farming. Big players such as Bill Gates are buying massive amounts of land and destroying millions of trees, turning regular farms into GMO farms. If we the people own most of the land, we remain in control! 

Lastly, beyond 2030 is yet another threat we will have to face and that is A.I. and robots... yes robots. There are already plans to roll out massive robot workforces over the next 10 years and while that may have some benefits, will have drawbacks too because it will accelerate the "need for UBI (Universal Basic Income)" as jobs will gradually disappear. When more and more people become dependent on this fixed income, that will affect our ability to provide affordable housing via SFH rentals and sub 10 unit MFH properties.

If you learn how big players like these control the world, you can use this insight to your advantage and plan for the future, including where and how to invest! It's time to get smart and work together.

These people want to divide us into only two classes - rich and poor and they want to buy up all assets, making it hard for small investors to thrive.

It's a crazy world out there now and things are going to get tougher, but if you are willing to let go of your beliefs and open your eyes and mind, you can find answers and solutions to these challenges we will all continue to face. Together, we can still win!

TLDR; In summary: BUY LAND NOW! (and Bitcoin)

"knowledge Is The Biggest Asset You Can Accumulate"

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Henry ClarkPro Member
Developer · Member since 2020 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
3y

Try to keep my response simple. 

We do Selfstorage.  Which is great in a good or bad economy.  Some people think there is too much storage but helping people on BP I have looked at lots of areas and there still is a large unfulfilled market nationwide.    

Country subdivisions 2 to 8 acres.  Going to market with our second subdivision.  We just sell the lots.  There aren’t enough houses so lots have a good demand.  

Belize Teak plantations.  This is a long term investment that can ride out bad economies.  Plus it has a built in upward trajectory that can’t be changed in the next 60 years.

Getting back to you.  Forget the discussion if you’re right or wrong.   

I don’t think pooling together with other investors to save the world or a small piece for your family is a good idea.  That’s a Communal approach which doesn’t work unless your a religious order.   .  
   
There are many ways for young people to make it today.  If you’re 20, healthy, average intelligence, not even a hard worker, you can be a millionaire in 20 years.   Not even a maybe.  You just do it.  

Changing politics is hard to do.  I wouldn’t worry about politics.  Our system of government is built to be challenged. No matter who or if it gets screwed up, our system is built to self correct. Realize that won’t reassure you.  

Start with yourself first. Buy two acres of land. Start saving $20,000 to $30,000 per year. Lay off the TV, radio, podcast shows, forums for a while and work on your financial plans. Develop your REI strategy and your plan to scale.

Remember you’re lucky.  You’re a citizen in the greatest nation in the world.  If you get a chance go to some foreign countries to get perspective.  

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  • Henry ClarkPro Member
    Developer · Member since 2020 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
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    It’s your money.  You’re always right.


    So what REI investments have you made. Or are you making?

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  • CO · Member since 2022 · 590 posts · 428 votes
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    ALOT of assumptions there lol. 

    People were saying this before we were all alive. They have turned out fine, as long as you stay in the market. 

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  • Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2015 · 39 posts · 39 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Brett Deas:

    ALOT of assumptions there lol. 

    People were saying this before we were all alive. They have turned out fine, as long as you stay in the market. 

    They aren't assumptions, rather educated guestimates based on facts that I have pointed out, which you can verify. I would provide sources if I didn't have to worry about being banned or censored. You can foresee a direction when you know their plans/agenda and how it is being carried out.

    Staying in the market is fine, yes... but the issue I'm concerned about is the increasing challenges faced by NEW investors and even just families wanting to buy their first home due to all of these mentioned factors. I personally know lots of people that have tried to move during and after the pandemic and were consistently outbid, sometimes well above asking and even site unseen. Now you have a lot of families being priced out of being able to afford their first home due to rising costs, inflation, interest rates and competition from larger investors that can buy with cash or very low interest leverage. 

    In the 1950's and even into the late 1980's, home prices were very low and despite periods of very high interest rates, more families were still able to afford buying a home than now due to the fact that wages/income have not risen enough over the past 50 years to beat CPI/costs of living and inflation. 

    US incomes have fallen every year of the Biden Presidency thus far.
    The median income last year fell to $74,580. 90th percentile fell to $216,000, and the bottom 10th was $17,100.
    Poverty rate - the supplemental poverty measure - based on post-tax income and includes government-transfer payments like stimulus checks - rose to 12.4% . It was the first increase since 2010.
    Income inequality: The Gini index fell to 0.488, narrowing the gap as pay among the highest earners decreased. A Gini coefficient of zero reflects perfect equality, where all income or wealth values are the same, while a Gini coefficient of 1 (or 100%) reflects maximum inequality.

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  • Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2015 · 39 posts · 39 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Henry Clark:

    It’s your money.  You’re always right.


    So what REI investments have you made. Or are you making?


    I did some flips a few years back, but right now just REITs, land and one MFH. I'm waiting for the right time to buy more MFH.

    If you're heavy in commercial real estate, I would hope you are working on development projects that repurpose office buildings as we will likely continue to see a decline there. In fact, we are going to see big pain and/or crash probably by next year in the commercial RE market before the residential. As you know, it takes time for residential RE to be affected by major market shifts. 2008/9 financial crisis was different, caused by bad lending practices and greed, not market conditions. That said, we tend to have 10 to 20 year long bubble cycles regardless. 

    What commercial projects are you investing in that you think will survive the recession, and thrive over the next 10 years?

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  • Member since 2019 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
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    Quote from @Darius Parsia:
    Quote from @Brett Deas:

    ALOT of assumptions there lol. 

    People were saying this before we were all alive. They have turned out fine, as long as you stay in the market. 

    They aren't assumptions, rather educated guestimates based on facts that I have pointed out, which you can verify. I would provide sources if I didn't have to worry about being banned or censored. You can foresee a direction when you know their plans/agenda and how it is being carried out.

    Staying in the market is fine, yes... but the issue I'm concerned about is the increasing challenges faced by NEW investors and even just families wanting to buy their first home due to all of these mentioned factors. I personally know lots of people that have tried to move during and after the pandemic and were consistently outbid, sometimes well above asking and even site unseen. Now you have a lot of families being priced out of being able to afford their first home due to rising costs, inflation, interest rates and competition from larger investors that can buy with cash or very low interest leverage. 

    In the 1950's and even into the late 1980's, home prices were very low and despite periods of very high interest rates, more families were still able to afford buying a home than now due to the fact that wages/income have not risen enough over the past 50 years to beat CPI/costs of living and inflation. 

    US incomes have fallen every year of the Biden Presidency thus far.
    The median income last year fell to $74,580. 90th percentile fell to $216,000, and the bottom 10th was $17,100.
    Poverty rate - the supplemental poverty measure - based on post-tax income and includes government-transfer payments like stimulus checks - rose to 12.4% . It was the first increase since 2010.
    Income inequality: The Gini index fell to 0.488, narrowing the gap as pay among the highest earners decreased. A Gini coefficient of zero reflects perfect equality, where all income or wealth values are the same, while a Gini coefficient of 1 (or 100%) reflects maximum inequality.

     Few thing that I would like to add :

    - Gini ratio in US, although it's bad, it's comparable to any other high developed countries and even developing country.
    - It is well known factor that inflation is a driving factor that would increase property and also would create higher GINI ratio.
    - You can't compare 2023 to what happen in 1950 LOL
    In 1950 India just got independence, in 2023 India is putting their man to the moon

    What does it mean is that USA as country has the whole new competitor in the world, in all area, so US is no longer the big supremacy in the world

    - there's educational democratization in the world where any other country could overlap US in anything esp tech landscape, even South Korea could produce more sophisticated semiconductor than the US

    - If you think one guy can change the world, that's so 1938 paragdigm.

    - I guess you'd guys start educating among yourself how to make young people in this country going to unversity again, with good and cheap price LOL


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  • Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2015 · 39 posts · 39 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Carlos Ptriawan:
    Quote from @Darius Parsia:
    Quote from @Brett Deas:

    ALOT of assumptions there lol. 

    People were saying this before we were all alive. They have turned out fine, as long as you stay in the market. 

    They aren't assumptions, rather educated guestimates based on facts that I have pointed out, which you can verify. I would provide sources if I didn't have to worry about being banned or censored. You can foresee a direction when you know their plans/agenda and how it is being carried out.

    Staying in the market is fine, yes... but the issue I'm concerned about is the increasing challenges faced by NEW investors and even just families wanting to buy their first home due to all of these mentioned factors. I personally know lots of people that have tried to move during and after the pandemic and were consistently outbid, sometimes well above asking and even site unseen. Now you have a lot of families being priced out of being able to afford their first home due to rising costs, inflation, interest rates and competition from larger investors that can buy with cash or very low interest leverage. 

    In the 1950's and even into the late 1980's, home prices were very low and despite periods of very high interest rates, more families were still able to afford buying a home than now due to the fact that wages/income have not risen enough over the past 50 years to beat CPI/costs of living and inflation. 

    US incomes have fallen every year of the Biden Presidency thus far.
    The median income last year fell to $74,580. 90th percentile fell to $216,000, and the bottom 10th was $17,100.
    Poverty rate - the supplemental poverty measure - based on post-tax income and includes government-transfer payments like stimulus checks - rose to 12.4% . It was the first increase since 2010.
    Income inequality: The Gini index fell to 0.488, narrowing the gap as pay among the highest earners decreased. A Gini coefficient of zero reflects perfect equality, where all income or wealth values are the same, while a Gini coefficient of 1 (or 100%) reflects maximum inequality.

     Few thing that I would like to add :

    - Gini ratio in US, although it's bad, it's comparable to any other high developed countries and even developing country.
    - It is well known factor that inflation is a driving factor that would increase property and also would create higher GINI ratio.
    - You can't compare 2023 to what happen in 1950 LOL
    In 1950 India just got independence, in 2023 India is putting their man to the moon

    What does it mean is that USA as country has the whole new competitor in the world, in all area, so US is no longer the big supremacy in the world

    - there's educational democratization in the world where any other country could overlap US in anything esp tech landscape, even South Korea could produce more sophisticated semiconductor than the US

    - If you think one guy can change the world, that's so 1938 paragdigm.

    - I guess you'd guys start educating among yourself how to make young people in this country going to unversity again, with good and cheap price LOL



     Comparing our Gini ratio to another country isn't relevant here. I'm referring to our conditions in the US. Every country will have its own separate challenges and struggles. 

    The reason why I compared 1950 to 2023 is to show how costs of everything have steadily climbed high since then, while wages have not. That is very important because even when you don't factor in inflation, it shows that our dollar purchasing power has been declining and continues to do so. 

    Our president CAN impact the US and the world, because he has been intentionally supporting Ukraine, sending them now more than $138 BILLION dollars of our tax dollars, which we did not vote for! This is the hidden inflation putting the US into further decline and debt. Additionally, he made the call to covertly blow up a Russian pipeline. That, in combination with supporting Ukraine's goal of joining NATO is a proxy war threat to Russia which could escalate to WW3. 

    Additionally, he has been pushing the green agenda under false premises that humans are solely responsible for Climate Change, which we are only a fraction of 1% responsible. With that in mind though, 52% of cumulative emissions is from large industries and corporations, backed by this elite minority, are the major polluters and China is a big one, yet they are not sanctioned for it but the rest of the world is.

    There's a lot of other things I could get into about this, but I won't just because I don't want to turn this into a political discussion. Let's focus on the Real Estate aspect. I would love to hear people's creative ideas on how we can invest for the future.

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  • Member since 2019 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Darius Parsia:
    Quote from @Carlos Ptriawan:
    Quote from @Darius Parsia:
    Quote from @Brett Deas:

    ALOT of assumptions there lol. 

    People were saying this before we were all alive. They have turned out fine, as long as you stay in the market. 

    They aren't assumptions, rather educated guestimates based on facts that I have pointed out, which you can verify. I would provide sources if I didn't have to worry about being banned or censored. You can foresee a direction when you know their plans/agenda and how it is being carried out.

    Staying in the market is fine, yes... but the issue I'm concerned about is the increasing challenges faced by NEW investors and even just families wanting to buy their first home due to all of these mentioned factors. I personally know lots of people that have tried to move during and after the pandemic and were consistently outbid, sometimes well above asking and even site unseen. Now you have a lot of families being priced out of being able to afford their first home due to rising costs, inflation, interest rates and competition from larger investors that can buy with cash or very low interest leverage. 

    In the 1950's and even into the late 1980's, home prices were very low and despite periods of very high interest rates, more families were still able to afford buying a home than now due to the fact that wages/income have not risen enough over the past 50 years to beat CPI/costs of living and inflation. 

    US incomes have fallen every year of the Biden Presidency thus far.
    The median income last year fell to $74,580. 90th percentile fell to $216,000, and the bottom 10th was $17,100.
    Poverty rate - the supplemental poverty measure - based on post-tax income and includes government-transfer payments like stimulus checks - rose to 12.4% . It was the first increase since 2010.
    Income inequality: The Gini index fell to 0.488, narrowing the gap as pay among the highest earners decreased. A Gini coefficient of zero reflects perfect equality, where all income or wealth values are the same, while a Gini coefficient of 1 (or 100%) reflects maximum inequality.

     Few thing that I would like to add :

    - Gini ratio in US, although it's bad, it's comparable to any other high developed countries and even developing country.
    - It is well known factor that inflation is a driving factor that would increase property and also would create higher GINI ratio.
    - You can't compare 2023 to what happen in 1950 LOL
    In 1950 India just got independence, in 2023 India is putting their man to the moon

    What does it mean is that USA as country has the whole new competitor in the world, in all area, so US is no longer the big supremacy in the world

    - there's educational democratization in the world where any other country could overlap US in anything esp tech landscape, even South Korea could produce more sophisticated semiconductor than the US

    - If you think one guy can change the world, that's so 1938 paragdigm.

    - I guess you'd guys start educating among yourself how to make young people in this country going to unversity again, with good and cheap price LOL



     Comparing our Gini ratio to another country isn't relevant here. I'm referring to our conditions in the US. Every country will have its own separate challenges and struggles. 

    The reason why I compared 1950 to 2023 is to show how costs of everything have steadily climbed high since then, while wages have not. That is very important because even when you don't factor in inflation, it shows that our dollar purchasing power has been declining and continues to do so. 

    Our president CAN impact the US and the world, because he has been intentionally supporting Ukraine, sending them now more than $138 BILLION dollars of our tax dollars, which we did not vote for! This is the hidden inflation putting the US into further decline and debt. Additionally, he made the call to covertly blow up a Russian pipeline. That, in combination with supporting Ukraine's goal of joining NATO is a proxy war threat to Russia which could escalate to WW3. 

    Additionally, he has been pushing the green agenda under false premises that humans are solely responsible for Climate Change, which we are only a fraction of 1% responsible. With that in mind though, 52% of cumulative emissions is from large industries and corporations, backed by this elite minority, are the major polluters and China is a big one, yet they are not sanctioned for it but the rest of the world is.

    There's a lot of other things I could get into about this, but I won't just because I don't want to turn this into a political discussion. Let's focus on the Real Estate aspect. I would love to hear people's creative ideas on how we can invest for the future.


     dude the productivity and real wage has been on separate track since 1974, at the very least US population can still product made in China .... so thing is bit "cheaper" out there, now think if you are born out of Columbia river LOL

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  • Henry ClarkPro Member
    Developer · Member since 2020 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    3y

    Try to keep my response simple. 

    We do Selfstorage.  Which is great in a good or bad economy.  Some people think there is too much storage but helping people on BP I have looked at lots of areas and there still is a large unfulfilled market nationwide.    

    Country subdivisions 2 to 8 acres.  Going to market with our second subdivision.  We just sell the lots.  There aren’t enough houses so lots have a good demand.  

    Belize Teak plantations.  This is a long term investment that can ride out bad economies.  Plus it has a built in upward trajectory that can’t be changed in the next 60 years.

    Getting back to you.  Forget the discussion if you’re right or wrong.   

    I don’t think pooling together with other investors to save the world or a small piece for your family is a good idea.  That’s a Communal approach which doesn’t work unless your a religious order.   .  
       
    There are many ways for young people to make it today.  If you’re 20, healthy, average intelligence, not even a hard worker, you can be a millionaire in 20 years.   Not even a maybe.  You just do it.  

    Changing politics is hard to do.  I wouldn’t worry about politics.  Our system of government is built to be challenged. No matter who or if it gets screwed up, our system is built to self correct. Realize that won’t reassure you.  

    Start with yourself first. Buy two acres of land. Start saving $20,000 to $30,000 per year. Lay off the TV, radio, podcast shows, forums for a while and work on your financial plans. Develop your REI strategy and your plan to scale.

    Remember you’re lucky.  You’re a citizen in the greatest nation in the world.  If you get a chance go to some foreign countries to get perspective.  

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  • Investor · Costa Mesa, CA · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Darius Parsia:

    The future of Real Estate investing is in danger, and it's going to take a lot of creativity and unity to thrive over the next decade. 

    Those of you who've been in it for the past 10 or 20 years can see the writing on the wall, as you've had it "easy" compared to now and the future.
    BRRR method has become next to impossible in good markets. Competition is insane.

    It takes a lot of courage to go against the grain, to risk shame and censorship to simply state what should be obvious to everyone by now. The controversial matters I'm about to discuss are now public knowledge, however only a few years ago were completely unknown to the masses, except to very savvy (or paranoid) "conspiracy theorists" and there were massive efforts by governments and Big Tech to censor such subjects. Ask yourself - WHY?

    If you can swallow your pride, political bias and ego for a moment, I promise this post will provide value to you in the end, no matter your position.

    Before you make a quick judgement and skip this post, to be clear I was once a full-fledged Democrat, but now I am NOT affiliated with ANY political "side" as I believe the entire political, two-party system is defunct and corrupt - I mean just look at Nancy Pelosi (D) and Mitch McConnell (R) - a perfect example of how old greedy people remain in power and get to control and affect our lives. Why don't we have term limits?!!! 

    Moving on...unfortunately political influence plays a HUGE part in Real Estate and that includes ownership and investing. If you ignore or deny this fact you are either very naïve/uninformed or complicit with bias towards a political agenda or mainstream narrative. 

    Despite what traditional economics would teach you, an often overlooked fact is that big corporations, politicians and presidents all have an impact on the overall economy, whether or not we enter senseless wars and inflation - just look at what's happening now vs before our current... "President" who can barely string together a sentence let alone command an army. As a nation, our GDI and GDP are not looking good and we're in more debt than ever before. 

    Outside of that, consider what has happened just in the past few years for example, such as communities all over the country where BLM riots occurred that resulted in severe widespread property damage affecting surrounding communities for months later, lowering property values which allowed certain large investors including BlackRock to buy up these areas cheap, with and without leverage. BlackRock, Vanguard and State Street together own nearly ALL assets in the entire world! When you follow the money and dig deeper, you uncover that in that example, the BLM riots were largely funded by Mr. Soros whom has communist and Marxist political views. His famous quote, "Never Let a Good Crisis Go to Waste". And now you have Democratic cities such as San Francisco, Chicago, Los Angeles, and New York allowing rampant migration, crime and retail theft to continue which affects everything from business to Real Estate, to every day life.

    Then, you've got the whole p@ndemic situation that caused people to move out of highly restrictive states & cities where lockdowns caused massive job losses, business closures, suicides, etc., these people who were fed up moved into more "free" states such as Arizona, Texas, Georgia and Florida. If you do enough research, you can find out that even the Pl@nnedemic was political in more ways than one. Evidence is now clear that CV19 leaked from a lab, and Klaus Schwab of the WEF wrote a book about CV19 and the "Great Reset" TWO MONTHS before it occurred and was quoted saying "The p@ndemic represents a rare but narrow window of opportunity [...] to reset our world". Look up Event 201, Agenda 21 and agenda 2030. These are not "conspiracy theories" rather conspiracy facts that are now public knowledge for all to see. You just have to ignore the "Fact Checkers" as they are actually biased liars paid to censor the truth. Dig deep enough and you'll find the truth - think alternative media sources. Twitter (aka X) has more valuable and truthful insight than any "news" corporation (btw ALL of which are owned by just a handful of conglomerate companies).

    Here is how all of these agendas will affect Real Estate, ownership and investing over the next 5 and 10 years:

    Agenda 21/2030: For more than 20 years, the United Nations has been slowly implementing a plan with global governments to gain more control and consolidation of ALL resources around the world, which includes restricting individual property rights and redistributing wealth from developed to developing nations in the name of questionable climate change "crisis".  They want a one world government and one world currency. 

    What does this all mean to us investors? Within two years or less, we will witness a major market crash caused by a combination of another pandemic and war, and more cyber attacks on our infrastructure. Even without all of this we are already on the path towards a de-dollarization and a Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC). BRICS currency is on its way to launch very soon. Bitcoin can still make you rich as it is a finite asset. At the very least, it is a hedge. During this two to three year period, we will see massive inflation even worse than now, major hikes in interest rates and increasing difficulty to buy, flip and even hold real estate properties - especially SFH. BlackRock and similar funds will continue to by lucrative assets, outbidding smaller investors and that includes multi-family properties. They will end up turning SFH residences and communities into tiny multi apartment dwellings. In order for us regular investors to still find opportunities after all these massive events and changes, we're going to have to work together and utilize pooled resources, creative financing, sweat equity and collaborative development projects.

    By the year 2030, according to psycho Schwab and the WEF "You will own nothing and be happy" so that means it will become increasingly difficult to acquire and hold onto real estate per their maniacal plans. What it really means is that only the ultra rich and as well as WEF sponsored, ESG driven organizations will own apartment buildings and other investment properties. The best way we can circumvent this is to network with each other and try to acquire as much LAND as possible and come up with plans to build our own sustainable eco-friendly communities. The further away from major cities, the less of an impact these agendas have on us. In general, land is the key! We need more self-sufficient farming. Big players such as Bill Gates are buying massive amounts of land and destroying millions of trees, turning regular farms into GMO farms. If we the people own most of the land, we remain in control! 

    Lastly, beyond 2030 is yet another threat we will have to face and that is A.I. and robots... yes robots. There are already plans to roll out massive robot workforces over the next 10 years and while that may have some benefits, will have drawbacks too because it will accelerate the "need for UBI (Universal Basic Income)" as jobs will gradually disappear. When more and more people become dependent on this fixed income, that will affect our ability to provide affordable housing via SFH rentals and sub 10 unit MFH properties.

    If you learn how big players like these control the world, you can use this insight to your advantage and plan for the future, including where and how to invest! It's time to get smart and work together.

    These people want to divide us into only two classes - rich and poor and they want to buy up all assets, making it hard for small investors to thrive.

    It's a crazy world out there now and things are going to get tougher, but if you are willing to let go of your beliefs and open your eyes and mind, you can find answers and solutions to these challenges we will all continue to face. Together, we can still win!

    TLDR; In summary: BUY LAND NOW! (and Bitcoin)

    "knowledge Is The Biggest Asset You Can Accumulate"


     I hope you're not forgetting to wear your foil hat. You can't be too careful these days. 

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  • Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2015 · 39 posts · 39 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Eric Gerakos:
    Quote from @Darius Parsia:

    The future of Real Estate investing is in danger, and it's going to take a lot of creativity and unity to thrive over the next decade. 

    Those of you who've been in it for the past 10 or 20 years can see the writing on the wall, as you've had it "easy" compared to now and the future.
    BRRR method has become next to impossible in good markets. Competition is insane.

    It takes a lot of courage to go against the grain, to risk shame and censorship to simply state what should be obvious to everyone by now. The controversial matters I'm about to discuss are now public knowledge, however only a few years ago were completely unknown to the masses, except to very savvy (or paranoid) "conspiracy theorists" and there were massive efforts by governments and Big Tech to censor such subjects. Ask yourself - WHY?

    If you can swallow your pride, political bias and ego for a moment, I promise this post will provide value to you in the end, no matter your position.

    Before you make a quick judgement and skip this post, to be clear I was once a full-fledged Democrat, but now I am NOT affiliated with ANY political "side" as I believe the entire political, two-party system is defunct and corrupt - I mean just look at Nancy Pelosi (D) and Mitch McConnell (R) - a perfect example of how old greedy people remain in power and get to control and affect our lives. Why don't we have term limits?!!! 

    Moving on...unfortunately political influence plays a HUGE part in Real Estate and that includes ownership and investing. If you ignore or deny this fact you are either very naïve/uninformed or complicit with bias towards a political agenda or mainstream narrative. 

    Despite what traditional economics would teach you, an often overlooked fact is that big corporations, politicians and presidents all have an impact on the overall economy, whether or not we enter senseless wars and inflation - just look at what's happening now vs before our current... "President" who can barely string together a sentence let alone command an army. As a nation, our GDI and GDP are not looking good and we're in more debt than ever before. 

    Outside of that, consider what has happened just in the past few years for example, such as communities all over the country where BLM riots occurred that resulted in severe widespread property damage affecting surrounding communities for months later, lowering property values which allowed certain large investors including BlackRock to buy up these areas cheap, with and without leverage. BlackRock, Vanguard and State Street together own nearly ALL assets in the entire world! When you follow the money and dig deeper, you uncover that in that example, the BLM riots were largely funded by Mr. Soros whom has communist and Marxist political views. His famous quote, "Never Let a Good Crisis Go to Waste". And now you have Democratic cities such as San Francisco, Chicago, Los Angeles, and New York allowing rampant migration, crime and retail theft to continue which affects everything from business to Real Estate, to every day life.

    Then, you've got the whole p@ndemic situation that caused people to move out of highly restrictive states & cities where lockdowns caused massive job losses, business closures, suicides, etc., these people who were fed up moved into more "free" states such as Arizona, Texas, Georgia and Florida. If you do enough research, you can find out that even the Pl@nnedemic was political in more ways than one. Evidence is now clear that CV19 leaked from a lab, and Klaus Schwab of the WEF wrote a book about CV19 and the "Great Reset" TWO MONTHS before it occurred and was quoted saying "The p@ndemic represents a rare but narrow window of opportunity [...] to reset our world". Look up Event 201, Agenda 21 and agenda 2030. These are not "conspiracy theories" rather conspiracy facts that are now public knowledge for all to see. You just have to ignore the "Fact Checkers" as they are actually biased liars paid to censor the truth. Dig deep enough and you'll find the truth - think alternative media sources. Twitter (aka X) has more valuable and truthful insight than any "news" corporation (btw ALL of which are owned by just a handful of conglomerate companies).

    Here is how all of these agendas will affect Real Estate, ownership and investing over the next 5 and 10 years:

    Agenda 21/2030: For more than 20 years, the United Nations has been slowly implementing a plan with global governments to gain more control and consolidation of ALL resources around the world, which includes restricting individual property rights and redistributing wealth from developed to developing nations in the name of questionable climate change "crisis".  They want a one world government and one world currency. 

    What does this all mean to us investors? Within two years or less, we will witness a major market crash caused by a combination of another pandemic and war, and more cyber attacks on our infrastructure. Even without all of this we are already on the path towards a de-dollarization and a Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC). BRICS currency is on its way to launch very soon. Bitcoin can still make you rich as it is a finite asset. At the very least, it is a hedge. During this two to three year period, we will see massive inflation even worse than now, major hikes in interest rates and increasing difficulty to buy, flip and even hold real estate properties - especially SFH. BlackRock and similar funds will continue to by lucrative assets, outbidding smaller investors and that includes multi-family properties. They will end up turning SFH residences and communities into tiny multi apartment dwellings. In order for us regular investors to still find opportunities after all these massive events and changes, we're going to have to work together and utilize pooled resources, creative financing, sweat equity and collaborative development projects.

    By the year 2030, according to psycho Schwab and the WEF "You will own nothing and be happy" so that means it will become increasingly difficult to acquire and hold onto real estate per their maniacal plans. What it really means is that only the ultra rich and as well as WEF sponsored, ESG driven organizations will own apartment buildings and other investment properties. The best way we can circumvent this is to network with each other and try to acquire as much LAND as possible and come up with plans to build our own sustainable eco-friendly communities. The further away from major cities, the less of an impact these agendas have on us. In general, land is the key! We need more self-sufficient farming. Big players such as Bill Gates are buying massive amounts of land and destroying millions of trees, turning regular farms into GMO farms. If we the people own most of the land, we remain in control! 

    Lastly, beyond 2030 is yet another threat we will have to face and that is A.I. and robots... yes robots. There are already plans to roll out massive robot workforces over the next 10 years and while that may have some benefits, will have drawbacks too because it will accelerate the "need for UBI (Universal Basic Income)" as jobs will gradually disappear. When more and more people become dependent on this fixed income, that will affect our ability to provide affordable housing via SFH rentals and sub 10 unit MFH properties.

    If you learn how big players like these control the world, you can use this insight to your advantage and plan for the future, including where and how to invest! It's time to get smart and work together.

    These people want to divide us into only two classes - rich and poor and they want to buy up all assets, making it hard for small investors to thrive.

    It's a crazy world out there now and things are going to get tougher, but if you are willing to let go of your beliefs and open your eyes and mind, you can find answers and solutions to these challenges we will all continue to face. Together, we can still win!

    TLDR; In summary: BUY LAND NOW! (and Bitcoin)

    "knowledge Is The Biggest Asset You Can Accumulate"


     I hope you're not forgetting to wear your foil hat. You can't be too careful these days. 


    Sir, all you've done is proved that you know nothing more than what propaganda CNN blasts. I speak from thorough research, not conspiracy theories. When it's just a theory, I keep it to myself. When the theory turns out to be true and can be verified through evidence, that's when I openly discuss it as I have here. 

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  • Rental Property Investor · Boston, Massachusetts (MA) · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    3y

    I tried to report this post but there was no category for "bat#%&"  mishmash of conspiracy theories, misinformation, and nonsense.

    You just have to ignore the "Fact Checkers" as they are actually biased liars paid to censor the truth.

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  • Investor · Costa Mesa, CA · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Darius Parsia:
    Quote from @Eric Gerakos:
    Quote from @Darius Parsia:

    The future of Real Estate investing is in danger, and it's going to take a lot of creativity and unity to thrive over the next decade. 

    Those of you who've been in it for the past 10 or 20 years can see the writing on the wall, as you've had it "easy" compared to now and the future.
    BRRR method has become next to impossible in good markets. Competition is insane.

    It takes a lot of courage to go against the grain, to risk shame and censorship to simply state what should be obvious to everyone by now. The controversial matters I'm about to discuss are now public knowledge, however only a few years ago were completely unknown to the masses, except to very savvy (or paranoid) "conspiracy theorists" and there were massive efforts by governments and Big Tech to censor such subjects. Ask yourself - WHY?

    If you can swallow your pride, political bias and ego for a moment, I promise this post will provide value to you in the end, no matter your position.

    Before you make a quick judgement and skip this post, to be clear I was once a full-fledged Democrat, but now I am NOT affiliated with ANY political "side" as I believe the entire political, two-party system is defunct and corrupt - I mean just look at Nancy Pelosi (D) and Mitch McConnell (R) - a perfect example of how old greedy people remain in power and get to control and affect our lives. Why don't we have term limits?!!! 

    Moving on...unfortunately political influence plays a HUGE part in Real Estate and that includes ownership and investing. If you ignore or deny this fact you are either very naïve/uninformed or complicit with bias towards a political agenda or mainstream narrative. 

    Despite what traditional economics would teach you, an often overlooked fact is that big corporations, politicians and presidents all have an impact on the overall economy, whether or not we enter senseless wars and inflation - just look at what's happening now vs before our current... "President" who can barely string together a sentence let alone command an army. As a nation, our GDI and GDP are not looking good and we're in more debt than ever before. 

    Outside of that, consider what has happened just in the past few years for example, such as communities all over the country where BLM riots occurred that resulted in severe widespread property damage affecting surrounding communities for months later, lowering property values which allowed certain large investors including BlackRock to buy up these areas cheap, with and without leverage. BlackRock, Vanguard and State Street together own nearly ALL assets in the entire world! When you follow the money and dig deeper, you uncover that in that example, the BLM riots were largely funded by Mr. Soros whom has communist and Marxist political views. His famous quote, "Never Let a Good Crisis Go to Waste". And now you have Democratic cities such as San Francisco, Chicago, Los Angeles, and New York allowing rampant migration, crime and retail theft to continue which affects everything from business to Real Estate, to every day life.

    Then, you've got the whole p@ndemic situation that caused people to move out of highly restrictive states & cities where lockdowns caused massive job losses, business closures, suicides, etc., these people who were fed up moved into more "free" states such as Arizona, Texas, Georgia and Florida. If you do enough research, you can find out that even the Pl@nnedemic was political in more ways than one. Evidence is now clear that CV19 leaked from a lab, and Klaus Schwab of the WEF wrote a book about CV19 and the "Great Reset" TWO MONTHS before it occurred and was quoted saying "The p@ndemic represents a rare but narrow window of opportunity [...] to reset our world". Look up Event 201, Agenda 21 and agenda 2030. These are not "conspiracy theories" rather conspiracy facts that are now public knowledge for all to see. You just have to ignore the "Fact Checkers" as they are actually biased liars paid to censor the truth. Dig deep enough and you'll find the truth - think alternative media sources. Twitter (aka X) has more valuable and truthful insight than any "news" corporation (btw ALL of which are owned by just a handful of conglomerate companies).

    Here is how all of these agendas will affect Real Estate, ownership and investing over the next 5 and 10 years:

    Agenda 21/2030: For more than 20 years, the United Nations has been slowly implementing a plan with global governments to gain more control and consolidation of ALL resources around the world, which includes restricting individual property rights and redistributing wealth from developed to developing nations in the name of questionable climate change "crisis".  They want a one world government and one world currency. 

    What does this all mean to us investors? Within two years or less, we will witness a major market crash caused by a combination of another pandemic and war, and more cyber attacks on our infrastructure. Even without all of this we are already on the path towards a de-dollarization and a Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC). BRICS currency is on its way to launch very soon. Bitcoin can still make you rich as it is a finite asset. At the very least, it is a hedge. During this two to three year period, we will see massive inflation even worse than now, major hikes in interest rates and increasing difficulty to buy, flip and even hold real estate properties - especially SFH. BlackRock and similar funds will continue to by lucrative assets, outbidding smaller investors and that includes multi-family properties. They will end up turning SFH residences and communities into tiny multi apartment dwellings. In order for us regular investors to still find opportunities after all these massive events and changes, we're going to have to work together and utilize pooled resources, creative financing, sweat equity and collaborative development projects.

    By the year 2030, according to psycho Schwab and the WEF "You will own nothing and be happy" so that means it will become increasingly difficult to acquire and hold onto real estate per their maniacal plans. What it really means is that only the ultra rich and as well as WEF sponsored, ESG driven organizations will own apartment buildings and other investment properties. The best way we can circumvent this is to network with each other and try to acquire as much LAND as possible and come up with plans to build our own sustainable eco-friendly communities. The further away from major cities, the less of an impact these agendas have on us. In general, land is the key! We need more self-sufficient farming. Big players such as Bill Gates are buying massive amounts of land and destroying millions of trees, turning regular farms into GMO farms. If we the people own most of the land, we remain in control! 

    Lastly, beyond 2030 is yet another threat we will have to face and that is A.I. and robots... yes robots. There are already plans to roll out massive robot workforces over the next 10 years and while that may have some benefits, will have drawbacks too because it will accelerate the "need for UBI (Universal Basic Income)" as jobs will gradually disappear. When more and more people become dependent on this fixed income, that will affect our ability to provide affordable housing via SFH rentals and sub 10 unit MFH properties.

    If you learn how big players like these control the world, you can use this insight to your advantage and plan for the future, including where and how to invest! It's time to get smart and work together.

    These people want to divide us into only two classes - rich and poor and they want to buy up all assets, making it hard for small investors to thrive.

    It's a crazy world out there now and things are going to get tougher, but if you are willing to let go of your beliefs and open your eyes and mind, you can find answers and solutions to these challenges we will all continue to face. Together, we can still win!

    TLDR; In summary: BUY LAND NOW! (and Bitcoin)

    "knowledge Is The Biggest Asset You Can Accumulate"


     I hope you're not forgetting to wear your foil hat. You can't be too careful these days. 


    Sir, all you've done is proved that you know nothing more than what propaganda CNN blasts. I speak from thorough research, not conspiracy theories. When it's just a theory, I keep it to myself. When the theory turns out to be true and can be verified through evidence, that's when I openly discuss it as I have here. 

    I was serious. Wait......I think they're listening....sleepy Joe is a robot? AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
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  • Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2015 · 39 posts · 39 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Henry Clark:

    Try to keep my response simple. 

    We do Selfstorage.  Which is great in a good or bad economy.  Some people think there is too much storage but helping people on BP I have looked at lots of areas and there still is a large unfulfilled market nationwide.    

    Country subdivisions 2 to 8 acres.  Going to market with our second subdivision.  We just sell the lots.  There aren’t enough houses so lots have a good demand.  

    Belize Teak plantations.  This is a long term investment that can ride out bad economies.  Plus it has a built in upward trajectory that can’t be changed in the next 60 years.

    Getting back to you.  Forget the discussion if you’re right or wrong.   

    I don’t think pooling together with other investors to save the world or a small piece for your family is a good idea.  That’s a Communal approach which doesn’t work unless your a religious order.   .  
       
    There are many ways for young people to make it today.  If you’re 20, healthy, average intelligence, not even a hard worker, you can be a millionaire in 20 years.   Not even a maybe.  You just do it.  

    Changing politics is hard to do.  I wouldn’t worry about politics.  Our system of government is built to be challenged. No matter who or if it gets screwed up, our system is built to self correct. Realize that won’t reassure you.  

    Start with yourself first. Buy two acres of land. Start saving $20,000 to $30,000 per year. Lay off the TV, radio, podcast shows, forums for a while and work on your financial plans. Develop your REI strategy and your plan to scale.

    Remember you’re lucky.  You’re a citizen in the greatest nation in the world.  If you get a chance go to some foreign countries to get perspective.  


     Thank you Henry, your reply is an example of what a good, useful response should be!

    Self storage is a smart investment, I considered it myself a few years ago but didn't pull the trigger. 

    I own a few acres of land, trying to get more. 

    Teak plantations - that's a good safe bet! I had another investor mention it to me before, I was thinking of getting into that in Panama since Asia is so far away. 

    I do agree it's probably next to impossible to alter politics or the big players running the show, I just want to educate people on these things because they will have an affect on our future whether we like it or not. If things get bad enough and government gets too much control, trust me you're going to want to be a part of some kind of self-sufficient, off-the-grid community as opposed to living in a "15 minute city" or densely populated area. There are groups of people all over the world setting up these communities now because they see what's coming, and religion is not involved. One such fairly large community is based in Mexico and they follow agorism and some kind of bartering strategy (trade chickens/eggs for vegetables, bullets for food, etc.) I'm curious to see how it pans out, I know historically as you said, these don't tend to work out or last. Of course, those who have enough resources could do just fine living on their own if their home runs off the grid, has its own water supply and a garden, but not everyone can afford to set all that up on their own.

    Indeed it is great advice to focus on yourself, save money, disconnect from noise and build an empire. I know it is still achievable, but people just need to get more creative as the traditional means are slipping away.

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  • Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2015 · 39 posts · 39 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Jonathan R McLaughlin:

    I tried to report this post but there was no category for "bat#%&"  mishmash of conspiracy theories, misinformation, and nonsense.

    You just have to ignore the "Fact Checkers" as they are actually biased liars paid to censor the truth.

     Jonathan, have you anything useful to say? Any counter-arguments or proof that what I'm saying is merely just "conspiracy theories, misinformation and nonsense"?

    Seems to me that you're very close-minded and only believe what you're told, probably by CNN or NPR. Not capable of doing your own research or thinking for yourself. Sad!

    Like I said, these are no longer just "theories" you can easily look up everything I've mentioned to see yourself that it is now public knowledge. There is a paper trail proving everything, despite all the efforts to suppress the truth. My predictions for the future are based on this knowledge, and of course those predictions are my opinion - that should be clear. however the facts presented are true and real threats to be concerned about. 

    I won't provide links to all the evidence here publicly since I will get penalized for that, and I know you won't look into it anyway so that would be a waste of time.

    I will however, show you sources that prove "Fact Checkers" are indeed biased and therefore should at the bare minimum, question their validity.

    Facebook admits the truth: ‘Fact checks’ are really just (lefty) opinion

    6 Ways Fact Checkers are Biased

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  • Rental Property Investor · Boston, Massachusetts (MA) · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    3y

    @Darius Parsia nope, I said my piece.

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    Rental Property Investor · Grand Prairie, TX · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    3y

    I've been hearing doom and gloom like this since the 70's. However, a lot of what he said is correct. I've been dollar cost averaging buying RE for the last 8 years. All SFR in the C+ to B class hoods where the strongest demand for rentals is. And in my area the highest appreciation due to home builders only building high end homes. I may be competing with black rock eventually, but I'm not worried. I feel like I bought these right and can self manage them with better profits than the big boys that are coming to play.

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  • Real Estate Broker · Minneapolis, MN · Member since 2011 · 5k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    3y

    @Darius Parsia I think you'll come to find a big divergence in replies here from those with some "snow on the shingles" and those who never experienced the '80's. 

    Those of us with the advantage of the experience of age, having lived through the '80's, you'll notice 2 things;    were not freaking out half as much over the inflation, at least in mortgages, not until we see something verging on 15% again, because that, again, we've lived through it before.     And second, not going to argue much of the items your bringing up because while yes I think you've got it all wrong on the causality side of things, the "evil cabal strategizing against the average American", we for most part agree on the disfunctions, problems, neglect. Because again, we have seen it, lived it, nobody knows more on how F'd things are than us because we lived in a different America and have had front row seats to this decline. 

    Now as a person who has rubbed elbows with billionaires, and worked in a segment of elites, I can say from 1st hand experience your over-complicating things. Do you know what the 1st rule is of "elite" money? It's to RETAIN their position. Yes, as much as you live in paranoid fear of things, they too live in a state of paranoid fear. See, when you have much, you have much to loose. And they are always with that first thought, preservation.    

    But, remember, they didn't get to where they are via the "standard" way of living, which means "standard" way of thinking. So while the "standard" American translates "preservation" as something akin to putting $ in jars and burying em out back, "elite wealth" translates Preservation into a action, growth, consolidation, they are doers. 

    Fact is elite wealth doe snot think of you. They think as much about you as you think about the ant's between the cracks of the sidewalk as you stroll along the street. That's the truth of it. Their focus is on themselves, their circle, and their business, and that's it. 

    Now when you think of it in that way, isn't it kind of common sense? Couldn't you see yourself doing the exact same? Because I assure, you do. 

    What Klaus S. said at WEF is not some war-campaign slogan upon the masses, it's was an observation, and one of an opportunity, one that in their eyes is an opportunity. Again, you have to slide into their shoes, their existence, their world. 

    It is a fact, that for decades Americans have lived more and more and more on credit utilization, shifting their consumer habits from whole-dollar based purchasing too monthly payment based purchasing.     This is simply a fact. And before anyone decries "cabal, CABAL, they did it to us" let me ask you, if a person opens a restaurant serving double bacon cheese burgers and other cholesterol rich foods, is it a cabal to serve health endangering foods, are they with secret mission to kill people, or are they simply serving something people really like, line-up to buy, giving the people what the people want as evidenced by the people "voting" with their consumer actions? All anyone would have to do to stop it, is simply don't buy it. 

    If "the people" wanted to stop the financing wheel of servitude to a bank, they can, all they have to do is stop buying it. It exists purely because people gobble it up, the people want it, so, they provide it. It is truly that simple. 

    When they say "they will own nothing, and be happy" it's the shortest simplest form to say what they all know and have been seeing in their business's that "the people" in mass are shifted towards desiring "owning" things via FINANCING them, which is NOT ownership, it's USERSHIP. 

    "The People" are voting for this, have been for decades, that they want to have use of things beyond their means. That reality. And Klaus S. simply recognizes that this is not stopping, that people seem to prefer life via payments vs life via ownership. 

    People today, by there own self-doing, in majority part today say they don't want to be self-accountable, they don't want to be held to a standard, they want no winners, no losers, get anything you want regardless of having ever earned it, it's what the masses want unfortunately. They are lining up in que outside the burger stand demanding more bacon, more cheese. They don't have to, they could live within their means, nobody is stopping them, people simply don't want to, that's a conscious decision. 

    A great analogy I can think too is in the Trump vs Clinton campaign. Clinton called out Trump on his tax's, said how he didn't pay this, didn't pay that, makes millions upon millions and pays little to nothing. Trump said yup, dang right, and if you want it different, change the tax codes.    If you don't want to live via monthly payments, STOP, don't do it then. But to do the things, and than blame those selling exactly what your consuming and asking for, is insanity. 

    Now, have politicians consistently damaged things, and it's compounded over the decades to the train-wreck today is, sure as heck yeah. But again, who did you vote for? Did you vote? Did you run for local office? Do you know your local politicians? Again, "the people" made this mess because "the people" keep choosing a person for office based on there hair, how good they talk, what they look like, they put a person into a very important administrative leadership role who has no qualifications for the job, no real capability to do good things, are we supposed to be surprised by bad outcomes?     If you ask a toddler to drive you around town in your SUV, who at fault when the toddler wrecks the SUV? 

    The 2 parties have control because we give 2 parties control, there is other parties. 

    Chimps are running the show because we gave chimps the keys and authority to run the show. 

    This is the real heart of the problem today, people completely disowning the obvious, simple truth of causality. Instead going to some fantasy-land of cabals and lizard-alien conspiracies.    Why do they do this, for the exact same reason as all the rest of it for all, refusal of self-accountability. It's across the board, for all, just the expression of it changes. 

    Gates is buying up land because his company is making so much dang $ he has run out of places to put it, it is that simple. And land, namely farm land is the easiest place to "bank" that money, because there is no active inputs at all, virtually no management team, they just buy the land and lease it out to farmers sometimes as much as a 99yr lease. It's land banking. How would you manage trying to sort out where to put $300million per year? Ok, how about a billion. 

    Covid19, ok. So your a government, which means politician, which means your 1st focus is on being electable, popular. And uh-oh, your in some way connected to a lab where some moron screwed up, let out a pathogen that's running like wild-fire through the world, what do you do? Step up, full disclosure and own it? Lol, self-accountability is the polar opposite to what that chimp does, has always done, and will always do. And you hired that chimp, it flings poo, always has, just because you gave it the keys to the kingdom doesn't change that. 

    So yeah, they cover their own arse first and foremost. And than do whatever desperate actions to try to "fix" it but remember, their a chimp, not Dr's, not engineers, they have no qualifications for the job, their toddlers driving SUV's so yeah, they do dumb stuff, duh. 

    When you go to play fetch with a cat, it ain't the cat who's the fool. 

    Now med companies, they are med companies, it's like going to McDonalds and saying I got a billion people who might be hungry, if I paid for the bill, do you think you have something they would like? Ah-Duh, surprise surprise they say sure, how about this. It's literally their business, you offer them crazy billions and 0 accountability for outcome, duh, of course they will fill that order, ANYONE would. Again, it's literally your business. 

    And again, people refusing self-accountability, putting their actions on others for presenting the options because the options were not 1,000% perfectly ideal to choose from. Welcome to life, who the hell ever guarenteed it was going to be easy, simply or pain free. 

    And again, going to fantasy-land to place all accountability outward, is childish at best. 

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  • Member since 2019 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
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    Quote from @James Hamling:

    @Darius Parsia I think you'll come to find a big divergence in replies here from those with some "snow on the shingles" and those who never experienced the '80's. 

    Those of us with the advantage of the experience of age, having lived through the '80's, you'll notice 2 things;    were not freaking out half as much over the inflation, at least in mortgages, not until we see something verging on 15% again, because that, again, we've lived through it before.     And second, not going to argue much of the items your bringing up because while yes I think you've got it all wrong on the causality side of things, the "evil cabal strategizing against the average American", we for most part agree on the disfunctions, problems, neglect. Because again, we have seen it, lived it, nobody knows more on how F'd things are than us because we lived in a different America and have had front row seats to this decline. 


    I will be even more specific James.

    FOr those who never born and live in Iran , Venezuela, Bolivia , Argentina, even Turkey in 2022/2023 now, The Phillipine in the 1990s, Thai in 1990s, South Korean in 1998.......just don't talk about inflation or hyperinflation to us. We will laugh at you. Our definition of inflation simply means your networth is being cut from $100k to $30k in single day LOL

    At the very least the US Gov can still print the dollar. LOL and borrow/lend the dollar to their friend (for example Ukraine or Suiss Bank).

    One thing the the OP got it right is the George Soros factor LOL

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    Rental Property Investor · Denver, CO · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    3y

    Wow.

    Maybe I'm naive, but I believe in the everyday investor, the opportunity in America, and our country's ability to consistently manage to be the "least bad" in the world. At the end of the day, people choose to pack up their families and belongings and move here, and almost nowhere else. 

    I believe that housing and housing costs, will, in the long-run, appreciate in this country. And I choose to believe that purchasing it consistently, with a long-term hold horizon, having a healthy fear for near-term volatility regardless of source, and operating professionally is as likely a path to wealth and security for me and my family as any. 

    I'll believe that the big corporations, Fed, UN, political parties, presidents, and more can ruin the opportunity in residential real estate when I see it. Until then, my portfolio moves (slowly, cautiously, one small move at a time), forwards. 

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  • Real Estate Broker · Minneapolis, MN · Member since 2011 · 5k+ posts · 6k+ votes
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    Quote from @Carlos Ptriawan:
    Quote from @James Hamling:

    @Darius Parsia I think you'll come to find a big divergence in replies here from those with some "snow on the shingles" and those who never experienced the '80's. 

    Those of us with the advantage of the experience of age, having lived through the '80's, you'll notice 2 things;    were not freaking out half as much over the inflation, at least in mortgages, not until we see something verging on 15% again, because that, again, we've lived through it before.     And second, not going to argue much of the items your bringing up because while yes I think you've got it all wrong on the causality side of things, the "evil cabal strategizing against the average American", we for most part agree on the disfunctions, problems, neglect. Because again, we have seen it, lived it, nobody knows more on how F'd things are than us because we lived in a different America and have had front row seats to this decline. 


    I will be even more specific James.

    FOr those who never born and live in Iran , Venezuela, Bolivia , Argentina, even Turkey in 2022/2023 now, The Phillipine in the 1990s, Thai in 1990s, South Korean in 1998.......just don't talk about inflation or hyperinflation to us. We will laugh at you. Our definition of inflation simply means your networth is being cut from $100k to $30k in single day LOL

    At the very least the US Gov can still print the dollar. LOL and borrow/lend the dollar to their friend (for example Ukraine or Suiss Bank).

    One thing the the OP got it right is the George Soros factor LOL

    George is just that kid on the playground drunk on power because he has more than the other kids, and to satiate that feeling of inadequacy he has to flex it, just to be flexing it, not even that he believes in what he's doing he just needs to make people dance for him so he feels a sense of worth. 

    He's a drama factory, plain n simple. One with a hell of a lot of resources to keep the music playing. 

    And even with him, it's the people's fault, because all people have to do is refuse to dance. And he'd sit there and cry, all alone. 

    If soldiers refused to fight, there would be no wars. If people refused to carry out malevolent orders, no evil deed's would be done. 

    In the end, I blame those who sold their soul to act on the psycho's desires. Soros doesn't do a thing himself, he simply offers money for others to do it. It's the sell-out's who are at fault. 

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  • Investor · Fresno, CA · Member since 2016 · 222 posts · 237 votes
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    I was watching a documentary about longevity (Live to 100: Secrets of the Blue Zones; Netflix; pretty good and thought-provoking) where they interviewed a local politician in Singapore. She stated that the role of politicians was to be civil servants and enhance the lives of their constituents. 

    Maybe I'm too cynical, but as a lifelong American, this phrase struck me as highly unusual. I've no doubt that there are great politicians at the local level, but at the federal level I have lost faith in our government to make the right decisions to improve the health, opportunity, and happiness of the average American. 

    America is still a great country to live in, but we are certainly not without our flaws. And being poor in America?......probably not worth it. 

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  • Real Estate Agent · WA · Member since 2021 · 254 posts · 173 votes
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    So what is the strategy? What can we do to work against this? How can we save our futures and children? Do you have a certain blueprint in mind for yourself?

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  • Member since 2019 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
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    Quote from @Ran Iarovich:

    So what is the strategy? What can we do to work against this? How can we save our futures and children? Do you have a certain blueprint in mind for yourself?

    Best strategy is buy very large home that can be househacked and used by the kids LOL

    also buy more rental on same area

    usually residential real estate and stock index performs week in high inflation era
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  • Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2015 · 39 posts · 39 votes
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    Quote from @James Hamling:

    @Darius Parsia I think you'll come to find a big divergence in replies here from those with some "snow on the shingles" and those who never experienced the '80's. 

    Those of us with the advantage of the experience of age, having lived through the '80's, you'll notice 2 things;    were not freaking out half as much over the inflation, at least in mortgages, not until we see something verging on 15% again, because that, again, we've lived through it before.     And second, not going to argue much of the items your bringing up because while yes I think you've got it all wrong on the causality side of things, the "evil cabal strategizing against the average American", we for most part agree on the disfunctions, problems, neglect. Because again, we have seen it, lived it, nobody knows more on how F'd things are than us because we lived in a different America and have had front row seats to this decline. 

    Now as a person who has rubbed elbows with billionaires, and worked in a segment of elites, I can say from 1st hand experience your over-complicating things. Do you know what the 1st rule is of "elite" money? It's to RETAIN their position. Yes, as much as you live in paranoid fear of things, they too live in a state of paranoid fear. See, when you have much, you have much to loose. And they are always with that first thought, preservation.    

    But, remember, they didn't get to where they are via the "standard" way of living, which means "standard" way of thinking. So while the "standard" American translates "preservation" as something akin to putting $ in jars and burying em out back, "elite wealth" translates Preservation into a action, growth, consolidation, they are doers. 

    Fact is elite wealth doe snot think of you. They think as much about you as you think about the ant's between the cracks of the sidewalk as you stroll along the street. That's the truth of it. Their focus is on themselves, their circle, and their business, and that's it. 

    Now when you think of it in that way, isn't it kind of common sense? Couldn't you see yourself doing the exact same? Because I assure, you do. 

    What Klaus S. said at WEF is not some war-campaign slogan upon the masses, it's was an observation, and one of an opportunity, one that in their eyes is an opportunity. Again, you have to slide into their shoes, their existence, their world. 

    It is a fact, that for decades Americans have lived more and more and more on credit utilization, shifting their consumer habits from whole-dollar based purchasing too monthly payment based purchasing.     This is simply a fact. And before anyone decries "cabal, CABAL, they did it to us" let me ask you, if a person opens a restaurant serving double bacon cheese burgers and other cholesterol rich foods, is it a cabal to serve health endangering foods, are they with secret mission to kill people, or are they simply serving something people really like, line-up to buy, giving the people what the people want as evidenced by the people "voting" with their consumer actions? All anyone would have to do to stop it, is simply don't buy it. 

    If "the people" wanted to stop the financing wheel of servitude to a bank, they can, all they have to do is stop buying it. It exists purely because people gobble it up, the people want it, so, they provide it. It is truly that simple. 

    When they say "they will own nothing, and be happy" it's the shortest simplest form to say what they all know and have been seeing in their business's that "the people" in mass are shifted towards desiring "owning" things via FINANCING them, which is NOT ownership, it's USERSHIP. 

    "The People" are voting for this, have been for decades, that they want to have use of things beyond their means. That reality. And Klaus S. simply recognizes that this is not stopping, that people seem to prefer life via payments vs life via ownership. 

    People today, by there own self-doing, in majority part today say they don't want to be self-accountable, they don't want to be held to a standard, they want no winners, no losers, get anything you want regardless of having ever earned it, it's what the masses want unfortunately. They are lining up in que outside the burger stand demanding more bacon, more cheese. They don't have to, they could live within their means, nobody is stopping them, people simply don't want to, that's a conscious decision. 

    A great analogy I can think too is in the Trump vs Clinton campaign. Clinton called out Trump on his tax's, said how he didn't pay this, didn't pay that, makes millions upon millions and pays little to nothing. Trump said yup, dang right, and if you want it different, change the tax codes.    If you don't want to live via monthly payments, STOP, don't do it then. But to do the things, and than blame those selling exactly what your consuming and asking for, is insanity. 

    Now, have politicians consistently damaged things, and it's compounded over the decades to the train-wreck today is, sure as heck yeah. But again, who did you vote for? Did you vote? Did you run for local office? Do you know your local politicians? Again, "the people" made this mess because "the people" keep choosing a person for office based on there hair, how good they talk, what they look like, they put a person into a very important administrative leadership role who has no qualifications for the job, no real capability to do good things, are we supposed to be surprised by bad outcomes?     If you ask a toddler to drive you around town in your SUV, who at fault when the toddler wrecks the SUV? 

    The 2 parties have control because we give 2 parties control, there is other parties. 

    Chimps are running the show because we gave chimps the keys and authority to run the show. 

    This is the real heart of the problem today, people completely disowning the obvious, simple truth of causality. Instead going to some fantasy-land of cabals and lizard-alien conspiracies.    Why do they do this, for the exact same reason as all the rest of it for all, refusal of self-accountability. It's across the board, for all, just the expression of it changes. 

    Gates is buying up land because his company is making so much dang $ he has run out of places to put it, it is that simple. And land, namely farm land is the easiest place to "bank" that money, because there is no active inputs at all, virtually no management team, they just buy the land and lease it out to farmers sometimes as much as a 99yr lease. It's land banking. How would you manage trying to sort out where to put $300million per year? Ok, how about a billion. 

    Covid19, ok. So your a government, which means politician, which means your 1st focus is on being electable, popular. And uh-oh, your in some way connected to a lab where some moron screwed up, let out a pathogen that's running like wild-fire through the world, what do you do? Step up, full disclosure and own it? Lol, self-accountability is the polar opposite to what that chimp does, has always done, and will always do. And you hired that chimp, it flings poo, always has, just because you gave it the keys to the kingdom doesn't change that. 

    So yeah, they cover their own arse first and foremost. And than do whatever desperate actions to try to "fix" it but remember, their a chimp, not Dr's, not engineers, they have no qualifications for the job, their toddlers driving SUV's so yeah, they do dumb stuff, duh. 

    When you go to play fetch with a cat, it ain't the cat who's the fool. 

    Now med companies, they are med companies, it's like going to McDonalds and saying I got a billion people who might be hungry, if I paid for the bill, do you think you have something they would like? Ah-Duh, surprise surprise they say sure, how about this. It's literally their business, you offer them crazy billions and 0 accountability for outcome, duh, of course they will fill that order, ANYONE would. Again, it's literally your business. 

    And again, people refusing self-accountability, putting their actions on others for presenting the options because the options were not 1,000% perfectly ideal to choose from. Welcome to life, who the hell ever guarenteed it was going to be easy, simply or pain free. 

    And again, going to fantasy-land to place all accountability outward, is childish at best. 


    Hi James, thanks for the effort in your post. I do understand and agree that MOST "elites" focus on themselves and their inner circle and do not have some kind of evil agenda to control and influence the world. I'm putting attention to the ones that DO wish to impact the world. The ones that I named have been proven to dislike humanity and aim to reduce population and gain more control of resources for nefarious reasons.

    When you said, "what Klaus S. said at WEF is not some war-campaign slogan upon the masses, it's was an observation, and one of an opportunity" I assure you that is not the case since, he is essentially the founder and leader of this elite society and the WEF has tremendous power and influence on governments and the world at whole. It concerns me that you are defending this psychopath quite a bit! People like him, Gates, Soros, Rockefellers and the people behind large conglomerates such as BlackRock all have an insatiable thirst for power and control. They already have more than enough money, it's more than just about money. They control and influence politicians and governments. They are directing the narrative and how things play out over time in the bigger picture through influence, propaganda, persuasion and even force.

    Unfortunately this is how the world really works. One day you will wake up and see it for what it is. Discovering the truth is scary, but liberating.

    "The 2 parties have control because we give 2 parties control, there is other parties." The truth is, this is an illusion of choice. For decades, it has not mattered who was in office because they were all puppets controlled by powerful people in the shadows. There's tons of proof of this from ex-CIA, FBI, secret service and independent journalists who have proven this. They all follow what their puppet masters direct them to do. No president has true power to do much to make big changes that would affect the status quo. Trump may have been an exception because he was not controlled by others, he was a powerful billionaire.

    "Gates is buying up land because his company is making so much dang $ he has run out of places to put it, it is that simple." How are you coming to that conclusion? It's simply not true. The land purchases all have a purpose, as I described. You can look into this.

    Finally, you're also completely clueless about the true nature behind CV19 and that is an entire massive, complicated discussion but have you not heard the hearings where Dr. Rand Paul caught Dr. Fauci red handed lying to the world? "Did you get funding to conduct Gain of Function research" He denied that completely, and later it was proven to be true.

    My statements in my post come from several years of research and analysis. Yours seems to come from your own perception/opinion, but thanks for sharing anyway.
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  • Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2015 · 39 posts · 39 votes
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    Quote from @Ran Iarovich:

    So what is the strategy? What can we do to work against this? How can we save our futures and children? Do you have a certain blueprint in mind for yourself?

     Good question! As I mentioned, buying land with a goal to become self sufficient. Farming or at the very least your own garden so you can grow your own ORGANIC, non-GMO, pesticide-free food. One of the biggest issues in America is mortality caused by cancer, obesity, heart-failure. Big Pharma, Big Food, and the "Healthcare" industries all work together to make and keep uninformed people sick and addicted to their pharma drugs. This is why you see so much sugar in everything and/or high fructose corn syrup. 

    Becoming self-sufficient as possible is the #1 best strategy no matter what. That way, if things get much much worse, you'll be better off than the majority of people unaware until it's too late. If things get better, you'll still benefit!

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