Rental Property - Hold or Sell

Rental Property - Hold or Sell

Parker, CO · Member since 2017 · 6 posts · 0 votes

Thanks in advance for reading. I've been agonizing over this for months now, so I am hoping for some advice that may help me make the next best move (or not). In 2011, I purchased the home I grew up from in the Bay Area, California for $350,000. I moved around shortly after that for work so out of circumstance, this house became my first rental property. For the first few years, I barely covered the mortgage with rent, but now I get $2400/month (and recently refinanced to a $1,791 mortgage payment) which is better than it used to be. Now I have settled outside of Denver, CO and started my family here.

I have fantastic tenants (a family of 5) who always pay on time and even do minor fixes and repairs themselves. For that, I've kept rent a bit lower than the local rate too. When I refinanced last year, the home appraised at $800,000. For the past few years I have casually discussed the selling them the house. Selling the home to my tenants would keep me from having to put it on the market, advertise, and pay real estate agent fees, while helping these first time homebuyers too. However, they let me know recently they are not sure if they have enough for a down payment to make their mortgage as cheap as they pay in rent. Which is understandable. The cost of a mortgage would make them pay $4000+/ month for this house, which is crazy. And if I sold it on the market, they would probably have to move out and find another Bay Area home (for much more rent), or I suspect an investor would raise their rent high too, if they have to pay as much for the house. 

Yet, should I just hold on to this Bay Area real estate making modest profit? Maybe sell if/when my tenants are able to afford it? But maybe my tenants would never buy it? The main reason I even wish to sell it is not for the appraisal value, but because I would like to attain early financial freedom. I dream of a 1031 exchange, buying a couple rentals in Colorado, and letting those work for me and cover my housing; and I don't see it happening with this mortgage for the next 30 years. But pricing my tenants out of affordable housing so I can realize the profit just isn't what I want to do. Besides, I don't even know if buying 2 houses in Colorado would turn that much more profit than keeping one Bay Area house. I would pay much more in property taxes and might not get such great tenants (and that's for 2 properties).  

Thanks again for any advice or thoughts!

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Real Estate Broker · 3412 S. Harlem Avenue Riverside, IL 60546 · Member since 2015 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes
8y

@Kian T. if I were in your shoes I would definitely sell the home. It sounds like you have very nice tenants, and it is understandable that they would like to keep their housing costs as low as possible. With that being said, if the home is truly worth 800k, then you should access that capital and deploy it on other high quality investments that will give you a great return. It sounds like you have at least 600k in equity, so another way to look at it is to see what your return on equity is. If you rent it for 2400 and have to pay 1791 for your PITI, you most likely also have maintenance costs every month. Even if your cash flow is $400 per month you will only realize an annualized return of $4800 on a $600,000 investment. That is a .008% return.

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  • Real Estate Broker · 3412 S. Harlem Avenue Riverside, IL 60546 · Member since 2015 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    8y

    @Kian T. if I were in your shoes I would definitely sell the home. It sounds like you have very nice tenants, and it is understandable that they would like to keep their housing costs as low as possible. With that being said, if the home is truly worth 800k, then you should access that capital and deploy it on other high quality investments that will give you a great return. It sounds like you have at least 600k in equity, so another way to look at it is to see what your return on equity is. If you rent it for 2400 and have to pay 1791 for your PITI, you most likely also have maintenance costs every month. Even if your cash flow is $400 per month you will only realize an annualized return of $4800 on a $600,000 investment. That is a .008% return.

  • Parker, CO · Member since 2017 · 6 posts · 0 votes
    8y

    Thank you @John Warren for your reply. Your perspective is very helpful. Even if I were to raise the rent to the local market rate it sounds like it wouldn't affect the numbers much. Local property managers have told me I could rent it for at least $2800/month. It still sounds like that equity is better made for use in more real estate.

  • Real Estate Broker · 3412 S. Harlem Avenue Riverside, IL 60546 · Member since 2015 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    8y

    @Kian T. everyone has different goals, and there is nothing wrong with having equity. I am of the school of thought that says you "cant eat your equity". I focus on re-deploying equity into other great deals. This will also allow me to build more equity over the long run as well. 

  • Parker, CO · Member since 2017 · 6 posts · 0 votes
    8y

    @John Warren Thank you so much. Part of me has held on to this property for so long because it has been easy, and without any experience in selling a property (let alone with tenants) and without knowing what to do (or whether we can get better ROI) afterwards is just scary. Do you mind if I pick your brain one more time? You mention re-deploying equity to other great deals, but didn't necessarily mention it has to be in real estate. My thoughts were always to perform a 1031 into new real estate that returns more in rent (by more properties) and also to avoid the capital gains taxes to utilize the full equity. However, might it be better to "cash out", pay the capital gains on the house now, and then invest what is left in the stock market or some other investment? I know that would be significantly less $ than the equity we would get in a 1031 exchange, however. My husband and I both know nothing about the best way to do this, but as rookies in real estate with only one property, I really want to do this first transaction right. I would hate to risk such a big move (selling our one rental) and doing this wrong by putting our efforts toward the wrong vehicle. You're right, everyone has different goals. My goal is just really to get to the place where we are financially free and have no more debts.

  • Financial Advisor · Manchester, NH · Member since 2017 · 97 posts · 68 votes
    8y

    A 1031 exchange is not right for everyone, but when comparing the numbers...

    Option 1: Have a larger asset base to work from and reinvest in income producing properties (via 1031 exchange), or

    Option 2: selling, paying taxes, and investing in the stock market (which may or may not be paying dividends).

    An exchange can also be thought of as an interest free loan from the government - you only pay the taxes when you do not reinvest in like-kind real estate.

    You do make a compassionate argument for your current tenants, and that does not go unnoticed, however as @John Warren pointed out, your return is very small.  There are likely better options for you assets to generate a great return.

  • Real Estate Broker · 3412 S. Harlem Avenue Riverside, IL 60546 · Member since 2015 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    8y

    @Kian T. I think you are wise to be nervous about selling an excellent investment. You should definitely take the time to figure out your exit and feel very comfortable with your goals. My first thought would be to diversify by investing in several different properties. It sounds like you might be an accredited investor based on the amount of equity you have, so you could potentially put part of the money into a syndication. This would be the most passive way to re-deploy some of your capital. You could also look to purchase several apartment buildings in a different market, and have a management company in place so your work load doesn't sky rocket. 

    I am guessing the single family market is over saturated there, so you probably couldn't pick up a deal like this again, right? I wouldn't rule out single families in the area if you know how to execute that strategy. Even if the are not giving you much cash flow, the appreciation play in great areas can be smart provided you can cover your monthly nut for a few years till appreciation does its thing. 

    Not knowing you or your situation, I can't give you much better advice than that.

  • Parker, CO · Member since 2017 · 6 posts · 0 votes
    8y

    @Kyle Kadish Thank you for that information. I think this really helps me get the courage to do what would be best with this asset (sell, and keep that in real estate)

    @John Warren Thanks for this advice, I've never looked into apartment buildings before (usually I cruise Zillow for all the single family homes, which I only have experience in (not sure if they even list apartment buildings?). (My current home in Denver was my second home purchase - also a single family dwelling). Doing that and getting a property manager in place are great ideas! With the single family home prices in the Bay Area now, I doubt there are good deals anymore. Since I purchased the home from my parents, I get a break on the property taxes too (it was excluded from a reappraisal when I purchased it, so taxes are based on when my parents purchased it in the 1980's). I definitely would not get that again, but I may like to leave the Bay Area market anyway (I don't think investors are flocking there) and have rentals that are local here in CO and that I could keep an eye on. Although, I do want to be diligent as I plan this "exit", so maybe I won't keep other Bay area properties out of the question. 

    Thanks so much for your time again.

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