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Updated over 7 years ago on . Most recent reply

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Mike O.
  • Flipper
  • Mitchell, SD
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need help closing $1.2mm deal

Mike O.
  • Flipper
  • Mitchell, SD
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I’m wondering if anyone could give me a hand on a potential deal I have found. It is a 24 unit apartment complex that is broken up into a 12 Plex, 8 Plex and a 4 Plex. In the last couple years over $100,000 has been spent to re side all buildings,there’s brand new parking lots,new windows, new hot water heater’s,new paint and new carpet. I have heard plenty of creative stories to get deals done. Looking for advice from some veterans to get this done? The owner would like $1,200,000 and will carry a note for $1,000,000 - $1,100,000. he ideally wants $200,000 down. As with most new investors I do not have capital for that type of down payment. A liitle about myself: I work a regular 9-5 job and also have a realtors license I have done two wholesale deals in the last couple months since starting to devote a couple hours a night to investing. That said...my long-term goal is to make enough money on a monthly basis to replace my 9-to-5 W2 income I am open to any ideas that may be creative in getting this deal done whether be taking on a partner who has the down payment or maybe borrowing the money from a bank. I have also thought about a master lease option that would not require a down payment, but owner was not too excited about that structure. I have no experience putting together a partnership deal or a seller finance contract. Fully occupied 24 units - 12 studio apartments and 12 2 bed 1 bath $175,000 gross annual income Taxes $17,000 Insurance $7,500 Utilities $35,000 (the 8 plex and 4 plex are not metered seperately,the 12 plex is seperate meter). The owner has no debt and looking to retire in a few years. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated, even if advisement is to pass on the deal?

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Robert LaPrelle
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Robert LaPrelle
  • Chapel Hill, NC
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I was going to suggest getting some of the purchase price financed by a bank and some by the seller, but then I took a closer look at the numbers and now I'm not as sure. Lets look at your numbers:

17,000 taxes

+7,500 insurance

+35,000 utilities

= $59,500

If you get a loan at 4.5% for 30 years (and I don't think its possible to do this well) then you have $6,080/month in mortgage payments or $73,000/year and you are up to $133,000/year.

Add on property management fees at 6% of gross rent (not sure about your area, but in mine, this would be bargain bin management) or about $10,000/year and your are up to about $143,000/year in GUARANTEED expenses. (Even if you plan to manage the property yourself, 24 units is a LOT of work and your time is worth money.)

This leaves you with only about $32,000/year for the unexpected and I think that you'll find your numbers are a LOT higher. You will have parking lot and grounds maintenance, legal fees, tenants who trash your place, etc, etc, etc. 

Bottom line, if it were me, I would look for a better deal.

Hope everything works out for you!

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