Skip to content
×
Try PRO Free Today!
BiggerPockets Pro offers you a comprehensive suite of tools and resources
Market and Deal Finder Tools
Deal Analysis Calculators
Property Management Software
Exclusive discounts to Home Depot, RentRedi, and more
$0
7 days free
$828/yr or $69/mo when billed monthly.
$390/yr or $32.5/mo when billed annually.
7 days free. Cancel anytime.
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here

Join Over 3 Million Real Estate Investors

Create a free BiggerPockets account to comment, participate, and connect with over 3 million real estate investors.
Use your real name
By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.
The community here is like my own little personal real estate army that I can depend upon to help me through ANY problems I come across.
Real Estate Deal Analysis & Advice
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

Updated about 6 years ago on . Most recent reply

User Stats

68
Posts
11
Votes
Chris Watkins
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Payson, UT
11
Votes |
68
Posts

Single Family Property Rented as a Duplex - A "Waldo" Question

Chris Watkins
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Payson, UT
Posted

Looking for some advice. I am an investor (and a newbie to the forum). I've spent 5 hours doing my own research on this specific topic already so I hope I'm not wasting anyone's time. I've got a potential opportunity to purchase a "waldo" property. 

It is a 6 bed 3 full bath single family residential home with two separate "units" (3 bd 2 bath up & 3 bd 1 bth down). The zoning is single family residential (R 1-9 in Utah terms). The neighborhood is all single family residential. Through reading the forums it appears the pros to a SFR "conversion" to duplex is cash flow (and it appears to cash flow great). Cons are zoning and difficult resale.

My questions are these: Should I be worried about the potential for me buying this and zoning enforcement coming after me if I rented it out to two households? Is this common for investors to do? If it's been done for years, does that sort of tell me neighbors are okay with it? Am I missing any pros or cons? 

Your help is super appreciated. 

More supporting information about the property: The home was built in 1999. The tenants have done surprisingly well to keep it clean. There is only one gas meter, one water heater, 2 furnaces, 2 separate laundrys and kitchens. The seller has rented it out as a duplex for 6 years. The upstairs is even on section 8 housing for $1050 per month. Downstairs is month to month at $800. The lot actually has a huge 1100 sq ft insulated garage in the back yard which is in addition to the attached two car garage in the front yard. Ideally I could rent that garage out separately as it also is right off the street (perfect for a hobby mechanic shop scenario). 

Here's a top view of the layout. That big rectangle is the shop. 

 The backyard is basically this shop plus a driveway for the basement tenants (basement entrance in the backyard with their own driveway). There is plenty of off street parking in the garages (6 garage spaces in total) plus two driveways.

Thanks for taking the time to help out a newbie to the forums. 

Most Popular Reply

User Stats

16
Posts
19
Votes
Randy Scott
  • Investor
  • Provo, UT
19
Votes |
16
Posts
Randy Scott
  • Investor
  • Provo, UT
Replied

No reason to take a risk on this.

1. No way to add value to this property. (In fact, you might have to remove value.  My neighbor had to remove a kitchen in Provo after he owned it 2 years.  It just takes one neighbor to complain to the city)

2. 1999 was in the middle of the golden age in Utah for ultra fast/cheap construction. 

3. There doesn't appear to be any setbacks or street parking.  It does not look like a neighborhood that will age gracefully. (In 20 years, is someone going to spend money to fix up a house on a lot with no yard?)

4. One water heater is not enough for 2 washer and dryers and 6 bed/3 bath.  You will probably get cold water complaints in the winter.  Its also extra work to divide up bills every month.

5.  Why go to bed every night worrying about zoning issues?  You are buying a problem that will always be a problem to sell or refi.

I would only buy it if you really wanted to use the shop yourself. and at 80% of the single family res price.  There are much better long term holds in Utah County.

Loading replies...