A Chilly Househack: What happens when you combine BRRRR and HH

A Chilly Househack: What happens when you combine BRRRR and HH

Richmond, VA · Member since 2018 · 23 posts · 14 votes

I picked up this #BRRRR/househack project in THE FAN in Richmond, Va it was being advertised on Craigslist for sale by owner. It has a BUNCH of deferred maintenance and the previous owner smoked inside and had a cat but its a Solid piece of Real Estate in a great location. I'm posting weekly 90 second videos on my Facebook and Instragram to document the entire process, but I thought I'd share the numbers and 'investment strategy' here on BP with my fellow investor nerds.

First of all, its a 3 bed 2 bath 1,260 sq ft Row home (The far end with the black roof) with off street parking.

I'm using that sweet sweet owner occupied 5% down, 3.85% fixed 30 year interest rate to purchase the home for $200,000 (She was asking $289,000, but she was realistic in knowing how much updating it needs). So because I also plan to Househack the property (live in the downstairs bedroom and rent out the 2 upstairs bedrooms), I was able to purchase a BRRRR with bank financing on the front end (I know, I will pay closing costs twice) and have a kind of BRRRR on training wheels because I have a fixed rate payment so even if I mess up the rehab, there is no balloon note with a private lender that is coming due in 5 months. I just divert my high savings rate into paying down the 0% (introductory rate) credit cards I used for the rehab.

I really recommend if someone is looking to start with their first deal and its an option, try to combine 2 or more of the multiple strategies they talk about on the podcast and at BP: Househacking, BRRRR, live in flip, partnership, syndicate, wholesale, 1031 exchange. I think that's really where the magic happens when you can combine multiple strategies. Ok, end tangent. Back to the numbers.

5% down payment means only $10,000 down and call it another $10,000 for closing costs.

Upfront cash - $20,000 [For this I just pumped up my savings rate when I discovered BP and FI back in late 2017, and i took a loan from my 401k at work]

Projected rehab budget - $50,000 (Low end) - $ 70,000 (high end) [This I'm putting all on Credit Cards that I've opened with 12 months of 0% interest rate, and hopefully I refinance in 6-8 months]

Estimated ARV - $350,000 (I think I am being conservative..)

Estimated Refinance - (0.75*350,000) = $262,500

So I don't know if it will be a "Perfect BRRRR" but I'm learning so much and we are still so early in the process.

Projected Rent while HH – $550 (bed 1) + $750 (bed 2 + private bath) = $1,250

So I’m only out of pocket a couple hundred if you include utilities.

Estimated new PITI - $1,650

Estimated Rent after HH - $1,250 (upstairs beds) + $600 = $1,850

So Not a huge spread but since this is a BRRRR and I'm doing a bunch of capital improvements on the front end, and I think I'm being pretty conservative on the rent estimates, and this is a fantastic location: I'm happy to hold it through another cycle.

Love to meet and network with the local BP community, I attend the RING meeting here in Richmond So hopefully I’ll meet some of you all there or feel free to reach out with questions.

Go Get Some! *JOCKO voice

Peace

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Flipper/Rehabber · Fredericksburg, VA · Member since 2018 · 96 posts · 58 votes
6y

Just getting started in my investing goals.  I love Fredericksburg area, it still has all the conveniences of Northern Virginia (unless you have to commute to DC daily) but at a slightly lower price point.   
I'm currently working on flipping in DC as this is what I'm most familiar with working for a flipper right out of college about 10 years back.   Once I have a little bit saved up from this a  more constant flow rolling with the flips I would like to transition to buy & hold in the Northern Virginia/Fxbg markets ideally but will likely venture closer to Richmond where I think it would be less cost prohibitive to scale up.  

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  • Flipper/Rehabber · Fredericksburg, VA · Member since 2018 · 96 posts · 58 votes
    6y

    Congrats on the purchase.  Seems like you've put a lot of thought into your plan of attack on this.  Off-Street Parking is a nice plus.  Best of luck with the rehab!

  • Richmond, VA · Member since 2018 · 23 posts · 14 votes
    6y

    Thanks @Brian Beck! How do you like the fredericksburg market? I lived there 2105-17, seems like a great place to hold long term.

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Fredericksburg, VA · Member since 2018 · 96 posts · 58 votes
    6y

    Just getting started in my investing goals.  I love Fredericksburg area, it still has all the conveniences of Northern Virginia (unless you have to commute to DC daily) but at a slightly lower price point.   
    I'm currently working on flipping in DC as this is what I'm most familiar with working for a flipper right out of college about 10 years back.   Once I have a little bit saved up from this a  more constant flow rolling with the flips I would like to transition to buy & hold in the Northern Virginia/Fxbg markets ideally but will likely venture closer to Richmond where I think it would be less cost prohibitive to scale up.  

  • Rental Property Investor · Richmond, VA · Member since 2017 · 295 posts · 229 votes
    6y

    @Ryan Wydler Congrats on the purchase! I invest in Hanover and Henrico but have a few colleagues who own duplexes in the Fan. How did the rehab go? What projects did you have to get done?

  • Arlington, VA · Member since 2018 · 5 posts · 3 votes
    6y

    Wow Ryan!  Very impressive and a huge congratulations!  I could tell that you've put a lot of time and thought into our property and love your dedication and energy.  I'm new to real estate investing and finally made a decision to join this inspiring Biggerpockets community, learn as much as I can, network locally and in other markets and make my 1st first investment this year.  Congratulations. 

  • Richmond, VA · Member since 2018 · 23 posts · 14 votes
    6y

    @Amy H. thank you! How long have you been investing in the area? I have another property in west Henrico close to short pump. I like that area too.

    The rehab is still underway, only been about 5 weeks. I’m hoping to be “done” by late March (done meaning, Refinance ready), but I will admit since I’m also house hacking I’m spending a little more and getting higher end things like granite counters and hardy board siding instead of vinyl.

    The SOW Right after purchase looked roughly like:

    (1) total rehab downstairs bath

    (2) new Sidding, new windows, new exterior door, new roof

    (3) new Prime/paint throughout 

    (4) new counters and appliances and light fixture in kitchen (keep cabinets and floors = huge win)

    (5) cosmetic update upstairs bath (new vanity and shower fixture)

    (6) new carpet, paint, ceiling fan 3x bedroom

    (7) new heat pump and furnace

    (8) demo and replace deck

    *(9) add 2nd story deck with back staircase and upstairs door (I wanted to add this to make it really easy to Airbnb the master bedroom, but it might not be in the budget)

    I am doing a lot of the work myself on weekends with my dad which has been awesome learning as we go. 


  • Richmond, VA · Member since 2018 · 23 posts · 14 votes
    6y

    @Andrew R. That’s great! Once you decide it’s your goal and put a time line on it, things start to come together. What markets are you looking at? 

  • Richmond, VA · Member since 2018 · 23 posts · 14 votes
    6y

    @Brian Beck that’s awesome that your learning all the tools of the trade working with a flipper in the DC market! What kind of strategy are you looking at? Buy hold Single family? Multi family? Hosehack or just a rental?

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Fredericksburg, VA · Member since 2018 · 96 posts · 58 votes
    6y

    @Ryan Wydler eventually looking to buy and hold single family, definitely open to multi family but I'm very familiar with SFH residential construction so I'll be focusing there as I progress.

  • Rental Property Investor · Richmond, VA · Member since 2016 · 22 posts · 31 votes
    6y

    @Ryan Wydler, thats one hell of a deal you landed. I am also doing live-in renovations. About to complete my first duplex in about 3 weeks. I used a HUD 203k loan for construction, state and fed historic tax credits, and res rehab tax abatement program. Duplex is in Battery Park. DM me if you want to talk shop and do tours of each other's renovations since they are only a few miles apart. Cheers and good luck.

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