House flipping/ renting in alaska

House flipping/ renting in alaska

Ketchikan Alaska · Member since 2019 · 7 posts · 1 vote

Hey everyone! First post and very excited to be on the forums and post for the first time. I live in Ketchikan Alaska, the house prices are very high in this area, but there is the occasional deal. 

So my situation. I was fortunate enough that my grandfather bought a house up here that I live in, pay about 400 in utilities /cable internet. a month (we collect rainwater so no charge for water!) and 2000/ year in insurance. I rent out one room for 800 dollars a month. Im fully time employed make around 3200 take home a month. And we receive a dividend every year of around 1500 +/- . My dad is a local contractor and we are thinking of teaming up investing in real estate. 

My plan: 

We are looking to try and get a loan form my grandfather for 100k and negotiating a interest rate of 10%+(he will probably go lower but offer high out of good faith), my thinking is buy single family homes flip them, we estimate we could do about 2-3 a year for the first year, and then invest our potential profits  in multi family homes and rent them out to get a cash flow and build equity. Also another idea I have is Ketchikan is a huge tourist destination, our population doubles in the summer months, but I have an in with a tourist company that I could rent a multi family by room to increase my income, and the tourist company would deal with most of the drama that the tenants would have if the problem pokes its head up. But in the winter there are no tourist, but I could possibly line up a rental agreement just for the winter months, or even possibly move a family into a recently flipped house for a reduced rate to still achieve some kind of money flowing into it. 

So that’s my rough draft. Be as critical as you can be with me, tell me I’m an idiot, I invite it, I’ll take any advice I can get to do this right and avoid problems in the future. 

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  • Chris S.Business Member
    Property Manager · Anchorage, AK · Member since 2017 · 175 posts · 160 votes
    7y

    Hey there, investor from Anchorage here. Honestly that all sounds really good. Is the 100k just for the rehab cost and you have other cash for financing the houses to begin with? I am not sure on prices I'm Ketchikan but around here even junk houses are more than 100k. While I like the idea of having winter rentals and then possibly Airbnb for the summer months it would be hard to find a tenant for just the winter, and u dont wanna be known as the guy who kicks his tenants out every summer just to make a buck, Ketchikan is a small town after all.

    You know Ketchikan a lot better than me, but I think your strategy is sound. Just not sure if you are doing conventional finance then refi, buy cash then refi, etc...for the SFRs

  • Ketchikan Alaska · Member since 2019 · 7 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    Thank you for the reply Chris! Nice to see a fellow Alaskan! I'm was thinking about trying to use the brrr method depending on the real estate market at the time, I'd really like to avoid the capital gains tax if I could. I need to look into the lending process, I would like to have it financed and try to use my savings for a 10% down payment and use my personal loan from family to rehab the place. the SFR in the area usually run +/- $1200/mo, and I'm looking at deal now that has been on the market for a while, I went and did a drive by yesterday, it's a 3b 1 bath w/ an garage it appears they converted into a room that can be turned into a bedroom. It is a 3 min walk to the high school and 5 min walk to the middle school, the houses surrounding area ive seen listed/selling between 270-320 recently. It's currently listed at 130k but I would only want to try and get it at 115 after closing costs. But the multi family is the end game plan, 20% down on a lot of places here is spendy, I don't know how my girlfriend would like moving out of our big house to live in a duplex for a year to get a lower down payment lol. Taking a step back i agree with your reasoning on the summer idea, It wouldn't be a good idea to be that guy in this Small of a town.

  • Chris S.Business Member
    Property Manager · Anchorage, AK · Member since 2017 · 175 posts · 160 votes
    7y

    Do you have lenders in the area that will do a 10% down loan on a sfr that isnt owner occupied? All I have run in to here will do is 20%. Well, I found one exception but it was super sketchy. 

    How much would the rehab cost on the 130k one? Do you have a contractor who is willing/able to go through it eith you and give you even a rough quote on fixing it up? I assume eith it being so cheap it is in extreme disarray.

    Depending on the multifamily you have in the area 3.5% down on an owner occupied 4plex wouldnt be a bad way to get your foot in the door. Especially if it is financblable but needs upgrades that could raise its value or you could add some rooms etc for forced equity.

    Also there are new loans now for 5+ units where you can get the cost of the complex+rehab costs all lumped in together. So say the 6plex is 400k but needs 200k work you only need 20% down on 600k now instead of 20% down on 400k and then 200 cash for the remodel.  It's a pretty cool program I that opens a lot of doors. 

    I could be mistaken but I dont believe you would pay taxes on a BRRRR property unless you sold it. Even then you could always 1031 though I have heard those can be a pain.

    For only 1200/month I wouldnt bother with a sfr unless you are just looking to build equity and not worried about the cashflow unless you can get that 3 bed 1 bath for 115 and get a renter at 1200 without any money invested if you are getting 150k instant equity at purchase and it is priced that low and didnt sell the second it hit the .market I would be very suspicious of it.

  • Chris S.Business Member
    Property Manager · Anchorage, AK · Member since 2017 · 175 posts · 160 votes
    7y

    Another quick note is to check with an I surance agent on if the property is even insurable since they converted the garage. Sometimes they can be funny about those things. Though it usually just applies to nonconforming buildings where a unit has been added.

    I am typing all of this un bed on my phone while on vacation in Juneau so bear with me on any typographical errors.

  • Ketchikan Alaska · Member since 2019 · 7 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    I have not gone down the lending route yet I will have to schedule something because I’m fairly certain you’re correct on the 20%, I will have to check into it. 

    I would love to try and get my foot into a 4 plex but there are none around here for sale at the moment, but that could change by the time I get prepared. 

    My father is a local contractor who would like to pursue this venture with me and would have him take a look at the house with me to give a rough estimate. But you’re right the fact that it’s not off the market is strange, so maybe there is something off. 

    I really appreciate your advice! You’ve given me a much needed reality check, and opened the door to even better possibilities! 

  • Chris S.Business Member
    Property Manager · Anchorage, AK · Member since 2017 · 175 posts · 160 votes
    7y

    No problem! I like your ideas, and if you ever have any questions feel free to PM me. Best of luck!

  • Ketchikan Alaska · Member since 2019 · 7 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    Really appreciate it Chris! Be keeping an eye on that inbox! 

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