New investor seeking to flip first house

New investor seeking to flip first house

Jeffersonville, IN · Member since 2016 · 24 posts · 2 votes

I've barely gotten my feet wet when it comes to REI, but I'd like to begin my career as an investor in rehabs and flips. I have a few questions/concerns before I make my first purchase.

A few things: I've got a partner who is new to this as well but really just wants to be a "silent" partner. We've both decided to put up 20-25k to for our first deal. However, I have a low 600 credit score and I don't think my partner is interested in taking out a mortgage for our first deal. I tell you all of this because I want to be clear about our starting point. 

We've gone to a few auctions and looked at a couple of properties, but I'd like to be confident about our first purchase and could use all the help I can get! 

A few questions: 

- How do we start to build a team and how do I know I'm getting the right contractor? I've heard too many stories about people not getting what they paid for or way over charged on their first deal. 

-In what ways could I return the value to realtors who provide leads from the MLS or comps? I have a few realtor friends but I always feel like I'm bugging them if I ask for info.

-What should our price range be for properties and how much should we invest in rehab? Do you consider who your buyer might be after the repairs? For instance, if we put minimal work, cheap flooring, cabinets, etc in a property, are we only marketing it as an investment rental property? (My mindset is that a new homeowner would want nicer things, so would we want to spend more money on the rehab?)

-What are some ways to "study" our market area? 

-Who has the best information for REO's or pre-foreclosures? Where would I find this information?

I'd appreciate any insight you might offer. I'm excited about the opportunities ahead and hopefully many deals in the future!

Thanks, 

Adam

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  • Dallas, TX · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 745 votes
    9y
    I would get your credit fixed, I think you may have a tough time getting a loan with a 600 fico
  • Rental Property Investor · San Ramon, CA · Member since 2017 · 350 posts · 611 votes
    9y

    @Adam Garza If you have low credit score and looking to flip houses, I would go with private investors (friends, family, etc) or hard money lender. Although you pay with higher interest rates and lending points, you can make cash offers on houses you want to go after, close in 1-2 weeks, have inspections done in less than a week, etc. Conventional bank loans tend to take longer and that may turn off some sellers who is looking to unload their property quick. Also, since you're not keeping the house for 30 years, the interest rate that HML charge is less of a consideration.

    In addition, HML look more at property value and how good the deal is and less on your credit score. Some lend the buying price+rehab estimate and you put 15-20% down of your own money from that number. Each lender has different terms. Network around BP.

    As for deals, MLS has some but competition is fierce. best to find off-market deals via wholesale, driving around town to find dilapidated houses, etc.

    Rehab level/budget depends on the area. Look at houses for sale in the area and see if the remodeled houses have high end counter tops, kitchens, bathrooms etc.  If the neighborhood is less desirable, use less desirable/cheaper finishes but a notch better than the competition.  A bad mistake is to have million dollar looking kitchen in a class C neighborhood...waste of money.

    Your realtor friends should be able to run CMA and comps for you. Reward them by using them to sell your flips so that they make commission. And don't skimp or negotiate their fees...pay them well and they will want to continue to do business with you and help you find and sell deals.

    Listen to the BP podcasts.

  • Deland, FL · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y

    I would drive around looking for older abandoned houses preferably on farm land

    Find out who the owner and offer to fix it up and split then profits

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    Developer · Santa Clarita, CA · Member since 2008 · 15k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    9y

    Seller financing, purchasing subject to an existing mortgage, and private investors are all ways to get creative financing with a poor credit score.

    Hiring the right contractor often times comes down to your "gut feeling" and that gut needs exposure to many, the more experience you can get, the better (more accurate) your gut will be. Referrals are a good place to start, however, I have seen many referrals that were bad so don't trust simply based on the referral. Learn what it takes, how long it takes, and how much it costs to swing the hammer, you do not need to know how to swing the hammer. This will help you identify a good contractor or help you immediately recognize a poor one once he is on the job site so you can fire him.

    Return the value to the realtor by having them earn the commission representing you at purchase and/or on your exit.

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Jeffersonville, IN · Member since 2015 · 44 posts · 17 votes
    9y

    Hey Adam, I'm in the Jeffersonville area too. As you prob already know houses for sale are going quick. It's a seller's market right now with most neighborhoods being a good bet so if you're looking for a fix and flip I would shell out the extra couple dollars for good material and reasonable work. The return on investment should still be there as long as you buy right going in.

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