Moral / personal issue or just plain business?

Moral / personal issue or just plain business?

Real Estate Investor · Member since 2012 · 189 posts · 32 votes

So here's the scenario. A friend recently went to inquire about job opportunity w/ a consulting company that is working for her current company. The consulting company is outsourced to do similar work as employees of the company she's currently working in. Over the years, she has made friends w/the consultants.

BACKGROUND AND POSITION
Back to the seeking job opportunity at the consulting company... So my friend inquires and is eagerly greeted by the manager (executive officer), and she is informed that there is a position that they'd like to open up to her. The position is THE "lotto jackpot" of an opportunity - second in command of the consultants who would be reporting to the executives. This position is a highly regarded position in the hierarchy of her industry. Typically, one would need a masters and a few certificates, many, many years of experience, and connections to get into that position. Also, getting into this position would open up many more doors for her into other companies in industry.

THE OFFER
Everything seems great... EXCEPT... THIS promotion/position is an existing position that one of her colleague/associate/"friend" is working! The consulting company had been planning to let this friend (Jane) go for logistic (and performance) reasons. It just hadn't been official since they did not have anyone perfect to replace her - nor have they had the time to address the needed replacement.

MORAL ISSUE OR JUST BUSINESS?
If you were my friend, what would you do? Would you take the offer (a position they were planning on filling and that she just happened upon) or would you pass the lotto type opportunity that hardly ever occurs in her industry? The executives and other consultants know her well and the quality work she does - her reputation precedes her. As far as the consulting co and executives are concerned, it's a golden opportunity that has landed in their lap and are excited she approached them. Also, forgot to mention, my friend had already cleared it w/her boss expressing interest in seeking work w/the consulting company; she was granted approval/blessing.

If she takes the position, would that be a betrayal? If she passes it up, her upside is slim and even after getting more school, degree and alphabets, there's no guarantee she'll have that opportunity. Is this just business and the opportunity should be seized? What do you think? what would you do?

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  • J ScottPro Member
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    Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2008 · 17k+ posts · 17k+ votes
    13y

    I see absolutely no moral issue with taking the job. The bigger issue is pragmatic -- is she willing to potentially lose a friend over it?

  • Real Estate Investor · Member since 2012 · 189 posts · 32 votes
    13y

    thanks J Scott for your reply. been away...

    would you feel betrayed if you were in the person's shoes of losing your job b/c your friend was offered your job?

    would you take the job if it meant your friend would lose it to you?

    don't the above questions imply a moral issue... would the above situation be more about right/wrong in terms of taking the job given the circumstances?

    I dunno... i think this situation is a good reminder that everything we do IS personal. afterall, there isn't anything that we can do that is NOT personal / relative to us anyway. Unless I'm misunderstanding the implication of the saying: "It's not personal, it's just business." slightly straying from my own topic, I often wonder (as can be demonstrated in this scenario described) if the bigger picture really is that everything we do comes down to personal (ethics, values, decisions, actions, etc.). to say something is just business seems like a cop out in taking responsibility for a decision made. facts to back a decision can only rationalize / justify a decision (good or bad - personal value).

    well, it's late, and that's my excuse for this vague & obtuse reply.

    but really... there's no such thing as "it's not personal, it's business" - we play by social rules and personal interest... it's either all personal... or personal and business... but never business and not personal.

    I hope this makes more sense in the morning after some rest. :)

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