Blair Halver - Apprentice Program - Thoughts...

Blair Halver - Apprentice Program - Thoughts...

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INTRO: Hi all. Great to be here. Heard a lot about how helpful this group is and decided to give it a try. So, I am an attorney making a midlife career change to a real estate investor at the ripe age at 40. I'm too old to reinvent the wheel and, with a family to feed, I don't have time for much trial and error and need to start making money to support my family. 

GOAL: Hence, I am looking to invest in a system with a proven track record of success, where I can earn and learn at the same time. As an attorney, I don't mind putting work into a system. I just want to make sure the system I put in work actually WORKS!

QUESTIONS: Does anyone have experience with Blair Halver and his Apprentice Program? Does it work? And if so, how long did it take to get results? If not, then why did it not work? 

Last, is there a system that members of BP recommend that meets the above stated goals?  

Thanks in advance for all your help. 

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Michael HaasBusiness Member
Real Estate Agent · Sammamish, 🌧️ Seattle Investor-Agent | 🤑 Helped 400+ Clients Invest in Real Estate | 🏘️ Owns 23 WA Rentals & Airbnbs | 🏗️ Built 5 DADU's | 📈 You Can Do It Too · Member since 2016 · 725 posts · 3k+ votes
5y

Nothing wrong with wholesaling in Seattle, there's lots of investors working here. 

My two cents- 

1. Wholesaling is a job, and one that usually pays a heck of a lot LESS than being a lawyer.

2. You don't need anyone's permission to get started. REI doesn't have a cover charge, and 9 out of 10 gurus are in that business because they think its easier to make money from you than from real estate. You might get lucky and pick one of the good ones and prosper, but I believe the odds of this aren't in your favor.

3. If you have substantial savings you should be house hacking multifamily in Seattle every year, or if your lifestyle doesn't support that buying 1 short term rental (with 10% down using a second home or vacation home loan) or 1 long term rental (standard 20-25% down) a year. Milk your w-2 for all its worth, and throw the extra money into good deals.

4. If only the largest REI focused website in the United States was free, and you had direct access to investors in your local market who aren't trying to sell you anything but are willing to share their advice and experience gained through dozens of deals. I wonder which website that is... ;)

Happy to talk with you more. I hound for my own off market deals, but I think wholesaling for others is a waste of time. I don't know much about this program, but it sounds like it focuses on using FB ads to wholesale properties, which doesn't sounds like a good fit for your goals.

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  • Investor · Columbus, OH · Member since 2017 · 861 posts · 1k+ votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Steven Howell:
    Originally posted by @Account Closed:
    Originally posted by @Steven Howell:

    Blair is definitely the real deal. He has been an absolute wealth of knowledge for me in my business. His program is extremely dialed in and very impressive. Systems, hiring, process, support. It's really good. I can't say enough good things about Blair and his team. Best wishes for on your journey!

    This guy is another guru. Searched the name and photo and found his website, more guru nonsense. Really surprised he only has 1 post on here for being such a success according to his website. 

    Super nice to meet you Nicky! It looks like you give some very valuable advice and contribute a tremendous amount to posts here on BP. Are you saying that because someone doesn't post frequently as you do or at all on BP then therefore they are not legit? That seems like a pretty crummy argument. And certainly don't want to continue to back and forth here! It's New Year's Eve for crying out loud :-) 

    I certainly would never consider myself a guru. I do and have worked with people on a 1 on 1 basis in real estate investing and wholesaling since 2014 in a mentoring role and enjoy that tremendously, but I mainly lead with tons of free content on my YouTube channel, email newsletter, and my website. I don't run any paid ads, seminars, or any of the other typical guru crap. And there's a lot for me to always learn. I'm certainly not MR. Know It All. I love helping folks and continuing to grow myself. 

    Anyway, it's interesting that you just threw me into the mix as a "guru" just because I popped on and shared my experience of a friend in the business who has helped me. Confirmation of why I don't spend a lot of time on these forums! :-)

    As I shared with the original person who started the thread:

    I've been investing since 2009 but rarely EVER come onto BP for reasons just like this. I prefer to be out in the field doing business and lifting others up. I can understand where you're coming from though, so certainly no hard feelings. I know Blair and have been in masterminds with him. I saw this thread today and thought I would simply share my experience. Never said to please go buy his product. I have his program and it's helped me a lot. If you want to take that with a grain of salt that's totally okay by me. 

    I wish you a very safe and Happy New Year! Best of luck to you in your real estate endeavors!

    ps. Thank you for the thorough information you shared about BRRRR.

    I recognize your heavy sarcasm, hopefully you aren't too wounded by being called a guru.   You do have what I'd consider a guru website, that's why I called you "the g-word", as I mentioned in that post.  Nobody has a website that pretty unless they're selling something to newbies, but that's not illegal of course.   The context with which you showed up suddenly and completely out of the blue, along with several other "brand new posters," about another guy selling something to newbies, is pretty suspicious, and I just happen to be an old cudmudgeon that hates all the scammy stuff that happens in real estate.   Hopefully one old guy doesn't run you off this website if you are truly a honest and knowledgeable fellow...  And: an honestly wished happy new year to you as well, no sarcasm.  I wouldn't wish 2020 on anyone, guru or not. 

  • Michael HaasBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Sammamish, 🌧️ Seattle Investor-Agent | 🤑 Helped 400+ Clients Invest in Real Estate | 🏘️ Owns 23 WA Rentals & Airbnbs | 🏗️ Built 5 DADU's | 📈 You Can Do It Too · Member since 2016 · 725 posts · 3k+ votes
    5y

    Nothing wrong with wholesaling in Seattle, there's lots of investors working here. 

    My two cents- 

    1. Wholesaling is a job, and one that usually pays a heck of a lot LESS than being a lawyer.

    2. You don't need anyone's permission to get started. REI doesn't have a cover charge, and 9 out of 10 gurus are in that business because they think its easier to make money from you than from real estate. You might get lucky and pick one of the good ones and prosper, but I believe the odds of this aren't in your favor.

    3. If you have substantial savings you should be house hacking multifamily in Seattle every year, or if your lifestyle doesn't support that buying 1 short term rental (with 10% down using a second home or vacation home loan) or 1 long term rental (standard 20-25% down) a year. Milk your w-2 for all its worth, and throw the extra money into good deals.

    4. If only the largest REI focused website in the United States was free, and you had direct access to investors in your local market who aren't trying to sell you anything but are willing to share their advice and experience gained through dozens of deals. I wonder which website that is... ;)

    Happy to talk with you more. I hound for my own off market deals, but I think wholesaling for others is a waste of time. I don't know much about this program, but it sounds like it focuses on using FB ads to wholesale properties, which doesn't sounds like a good fit for your goals.

    HouseHack Seattle | Michael Haas & Team572 Reviews
  • Member since 2020 · 4 posts · 3 votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Account Closed:
    Originally posted by @Steven Howell:
    Originally posted by @Account Closed:
    Originally posted by @Steven Howell:

    Blair is definitely the real deal. He has been an absolute wealth of knowledge for me in my business. His program is extremely dialed in and very impressive. Systems, hiring, process, support. It's really good. I can't say enough good things about Blair and his team. Best wishes for on your journey!

    This guy is another guru. Searched the name and photo and found his website, more guru nonsense. Really surprised he only has 1 post on here for being such a success according to his website. 

    Super nice to meet you Nicky! It looks like you give some very valuable advice and contribute a tremendous amount to posts here on BP. Are you saying that because someone doesn't post frequently as you do or at all on BP then therefore they are not legit? That seems like a pretty crummy argument. And certainly don't want to continue to back and forth here! It's New Year's Eve for crying out loud :-) 

    I certainly would never consider myself a guru. I do and have worked with people on a 1 on 1 basis in real estate investing and wholesaling since 2014 in a mentoring role and enjoy that tremendously, but I mainly lead with tons of free content on my YouTube channel, email newsletter, and my website. I don't run any paid ads, seminars, or any of the other typical guru crap. And there's a lot for me to always learn. I'm certainly not MR. Know It All. I love helping folks and continuing to grow myself. 

    Anyway, it's interesting that you just threw me into the mix as a "guru" just because I popped on and shared my experience of a friend in the business who has helped me. Confirmation of why I don't spend a lot of time on these forums! :-)

    As I shared with the original person who started the thread:

    I've been investing since 2009 but rarely EVER come onto BP for reasons just like this. I prefer to be out in the field doing business and lifting others up. I can understand where you're coming from though, so certainly no hard feelings. I know Blair and have been in masterminds with him. I saw this thread today and thought I would simply share my experience. Never said to please go buy his product. I have his program and it's helped me a lot. If you want to take that with a grain of salt that's totally okay by me. 

    I wish you a very safe and Happy New Year! Best of luck to you in your real estate endeavors!

    ps. Thank you for the thorough information you shared about BRRRR.

    I recognize your heavy sarcasm, hopefully you aren't too wounded by being called a guru.   You do have what I'd consider a guru website, that's why I called you "the g-word", as I mentioned in that post.  Nobody has a website that pretty unless they're selling something to newbies, but that's not illegal of course.   The context with which you showed up suddenly and completely out of the blue, along with several other "brand new posters," about another guy selling something to newbies, is pretty suspicious, and I just happen to be an old cudmudgeon that hates all the scammy stuff that happens in real estate.   Hopefully one old guy doesn't run you off this website if you are truly a honest and knowledgeable fellow...  And: an honestly wished happy new year to you as well, no sarcasm.  I wouldn't wish 2020 on anyone, guru or not. 

    Hey no hard feelings! I can appreciate where you are coming from. There is a lot of garbage out there in the real estate education world. There are still some good folks! :-) I meant what I said about you providing a lot of valuable and knowledge posts on here and do sincerely wish you a very happy new year!  

  • Realtor · Bellevue, WA · Member since 2019 · 882 posts · 1k+ votes
    5y

    @Kabbie Konteh, there are many programs similar to the Blair Halver Program. I am a realtor in WA state, but for curiosity, I talked to a couple of them and they were not able to convince me.

    Wholesaling takes a lot of time and effort, and will not get you the revenues these programs say, and most probably this job will yield you less than your attorney job.

    Being a buy and hold has many benefits over wholesaling. 

    We call buy and hold the "I.D.E.A.L." investing vehicle because:

    1. I: Income (positive cash flow)
    2. D: Depreciation (in your taxes)
    3. E: Equity growth (Tenants are paying you the mortgage)
    4. A: Appreciation (Nationwide is 3-4%. Hot markets like the greater Seattle area, you can easily double these numbers)
    5. L: Leverage (you only need to put 5-25% down).

    I buy and invest here in the Greater Seattle area, and also help my clients do the same. 

    Best of luck!

  • Investor · Willard, MO · Member since 2022 · 26 posts · 22 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Kabbie Konteh:

    @Sophia Grigio and @Ian Lemke I looked over your profiles and comments on BP. You guys seem to always be the first ones to reply to any questions about Blair’s program on BP and seems to always say the same thing about the program. 

    Do you guys work for Blair or affiliated somehow with Blair?

    Also, has the program brought in enough for you guys to leave your 9-5s? because that’s a main goal of mine. 

    The Pipeline Mastermind group was a complete waste of money.  The Facebook group isn't even as active as the group you get for free with his Dealbot program.  The Dealbot he claims uses AI but it's a Typeform form with no signs of AI or machine learning.  

    Only thing I have seen Ian do is self promote a book.  Blair's program doesn't get you any answers you can't get right here.

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