Better late than never

Better late than never

Long Beach, CA · Member since 2017 · 107 posts · 82 votes

Hello, I am from Los Angeles, lived overseas for 7 years and then moved home and was looking for a good deal for me to actually own my first property. I knew what I could afford and wasn't looking to invest but to actually just get a property. I was tired of all the booms and busts of the stock market and I wanted to have a property that would be there even it dropped it price. I wanted the certainty of owning something instead of a piece of paper.

I knew what areas I could afford and that were tolerable to buy. I found a couple gems of neighborhoods that surprised my agent, and we definitely looked at a lot of random properties. I eventually made an offer on a nice condo but did not get it. I then settled on making an offer on two different condos in a different city. One said no and the other said yes. One thing that was appealing to me was that there was a section 8 tenant in there and the rent was high enough to cover the mortgage and HOAs and then some. I kept thinking I couldn't lose because the numbers were so good. My mortgage would have been less what I could have got for rent. The complex and area wasn't the best, but I would be 7 miles from Manhattan Beach and share the same weather with those $3 million houses. 

Well, I ended up getting a new job that took me to other side of the country and so I never actually moved into the place. The section 8 tenant has been in there the whole time and I have raised the rent slightly since taking over. This was a little over a year ago. I became an accidental landlord but there was a part of me that was more than happy to let that tenant keep paying off my condo for me.

I am a natural saver and after clearing out all my money for the downpayment a year ago I found myself with a good chunk of cash again. I started thinking about investment property and as I was doing research I found BP. It didn't take long to dive in, listening to the podcast like crazy, reading up about certain areas, and even calling a few guys from the site to pick their brains. 

I recently found my first deal through the marketplace and one of the guys I had talked with on the phone prior (thanks Jorge). At the same time I found another duplex in the same neighborhood that had good numbers too and so I made an offer. I am in the process of getting my loan for the second place, and waiting to sign some papers with the first deal. If everything works out I will have 5 units in Ohio and my original unit in LA. These two new purchases will wipe me out, but my goal is to start saving again and hopefully get a couple more in another year.

I am bit addicted and see myself expanding my portfolio annually. The only thing slowing me down is my cash is gone. Hopefully once I prove myself and grow my network other options such as partnerships will start to come to fruition. 

I am happy to have found BP and hope to be a part of this community to become one of those guys that newbies call just like I have done already myself with some of you. 

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Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
9y

Hi @Ken Virzi

I just replaced a roof on one of my single family and that was expensive.  That duplex is in Euclid, OH. and you need to replace big ticket items occasionally.  At one small 8 unit apartment complex in Shaker Heights 1/2 the roof blew off in the winter of 2015 5 months after I purchased it.  Even with deductible I was knuckle and dimed to a tune of $12,000 out of pocket.  I had a $5,000.00 deductible.  Mechancal weathering occurs a lot in NE Ohio and the city will come by and tell you to replace the driveway, sidewalk squares etc...  Water heater, Electrical, furnace, AC, etc....  One of my single family in Euclid had a problem with raw sewage during heavy rains mixing with the rain water and filling the basement with over 12 inches of that disgusting stuff.  Tenants get divorced, lose their jobs, claim bankruptcy, get sick, etc...

People often say that is a bit much, $10,000.00 a door.  As I said, I like better to be safe than sorry.  Don't buy anymore RE until you have adequate reserves for your family and each rental property.

Take my advice or leave it.  I sleep well knowing I have enough reserves for when, not if Murphy's law rears its ugly head. 

To be forewarned is to be forearmed!!!

Swanny

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  • Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    9y

    Hi @Ken Virzi,

    I advise anyone that buys single family to make sure they have 6 months in reserves for their family AND $10,000.00 in reserves for each single family for when Murphy's law raises its ugly head.  It is much better to be safe than sorry.  I have 85 front doors in NE Ohio.

    Swanny

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    Virtual Assistant · Scottsdale, AZ · Member since 2017 · 236 posts · 38 votes
    9y

    @Ken Virzi  Hey Ken! Welcome to Bigger Pockets! Bigger Pockets is the one stop shop for real estate investing. Get deals done the right way and connect with seasoned investors only on Bigger Pockets. Congratulations and I wish you luck on your journey to success. 

  • Contractor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2015 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y
    Ken Virzi Keep then flowing Ken, I've heard too many horror stories with lawsuits here on BP with partners. If you can do it on your own, which obviously you already have, lenders will drop their rates, your network stronger, and simply leverage leverage leverage and defer defer defer.
  • Long Beach, CA · Member since 2017 · 107 posts · 82 votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Michael Swan:

    Hi @Ken Virzi,

    I advise anyone that buys single family to make sure they have 6 months in reserves for their family AND $10,000.00 in reserves for each single family for when Murphy's law raises its ugly head.  It is much better to be safe than sorry.  I have 85 front doors in NE Ohio.

    Swanny

     Good advice Swanny. I have enough for personal survival, but $10k per place seems high. I do have $15000 in reserves total but that would include the condo and the two duplexes (well one under contract, the other agreed). Of course if the one not under contract doesn't happen I will have more cash and less units so I should be very safe at that point.

  • Solo 401k Expert · Anaheim Hills, CA · Member since 2012 · 18k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    9y

    @Ken Virzi

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  • Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    9y

    Hi @Ken Virzi

    I just replaced a roof on one of my single family and that was expensive.  That duplex is in Euclid, OH. and you need to replace big ticket items occasionally.  At one small 8 unit apartment complex in Shaker Heights 1/2 the roof blew off in the winter of 2015 5 months after I purchased it.  Even with deductible I was knuckle and dimed to a tune of $12,000 out of pocket.  I had a $5,000.00 deductible.  Mechancal weathering occurs a lot in NE Ohio and the city will come by and tell you to replace the driveway, sidewalk squares etc...  Water heater, Electrical, furnace, AC, etc....  One of my single family in Euclid had a problem with raw sewage during heavy rains mixing with the rain water and filling the basement with over 12 inches of that disgusting stuff.  Tenants get divorced, lose their jobs, claim bankruptcy, get sick, etc...

    People often say that is a bit much, $10,000.00 a door.  As I said, I like better to be safe than sorry.  Don't buy anymore RE until you have adequate reserves for your family and each rental property.

    Take my advice or leave it.  I sleep well knowing I have enough reserves for when, not if Murphy's law rears its ugly head. 

    To be forewarned is to be forearmed!!!

    Swanny

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