Realtor · Gilbert, AZ · Member since 2021 · 42 posts · 18 votes
Hello! We are considering purchasing a home in a college town (where our daughter attends school) as a long term student rental but turn it into a STR during the summer and winter breaks. We would write this into the lease that the student's personal items be moved into the locked garage or that they move out 100% for the summer months. Most of my daughter's friends go home for these breaks anyway and most of them said they'd be open to these terms- especially to live in a nice home in a college town. We already pay $900 a month for her shared apartment and this college town (Flagstaff, AZ) is a good STR market with a lot of tourism in the summer and winter months.
Anything to consider other than the simple logistics of turning the rental from LT to ST? Thank you!
Daniella - My first thought is that most vacationers are not going to want to stay in a college decorated house, and to expect college kids to take excellent care of high-end furnishings is asking a bit much. Just my .02, I could be wrong. But you definitely want to decorate it in a Southwestern motif or similar to capture the area's unique qualities.
Second, you'll have to do a major cleaning between turn-overs....one of the beauties of STRs is that the get such light use so your costs of doing business will be higher (appliances wearing out, etc)
But it could be a great multi use concept to get the most out of the property. Are you thinking 2 BRs or more?
Thank you for the feedback! We live in the Phx area and most of the families we know send their kids to NAU or ASU- meaning I can be selective to whom we rent out to (the students). We would be adamant about the decor etc but know it will be challenging. 'We were thinking of 3+ bedrooms.
As you know, Arizonans (especially those in the valley) love escaping the heat and visiting snow making the northern towns so popular!
Thank you for the feedback! We live in the Phx area and most of the families we know send their kids to NAU or ASU- meaning I can be selective to whom we rent out to (the students). We would be adamant about the decor etc but know it will be challenging. 'We were thinking of 3+ bedrooms.
As you know, Arizonans (especially those in the valley) love escaping the heat and visiting snow making the northern towns so popular!
Yes I do know! :-) I think it could be a good idea if you stay right on top of the college renters. Do monthly cleaning/inspections. Write the leases so tight they squeak! Charge high rent to weed out the low-lifes, Etc.....I'm sure you already have this in mind.
I would just hate for your first STR guest walk in and feel/smell the college lifestyle ambiance. That would be a deal killer. And even though you're having your own daughter stay there for a few years, when she graduates and moves on, you'll be dealing with unknown persons.....?
Part of our idea is to create an investment that also benefits us- we are paying for an apartment now (in this town) and likely will have more children attending there as well. It will be a pain, but so is writing a $900 check every month for 1 bedroom haha.
@Daniella Lamis That is exactly what my husband and I do with a unit between Harvard & MIT in Cambridge, MA except that we usually are renting to visiting scholars instead of students. We write fixed term leases with no opportunity for extending the lease. We supply all the items that one expects to find in a STR including the decorations. Because our tenants only need to bring their clothes and laptop and can rent just the months they will be at the university, we can charge much higher rents than an average student can afford. We list on the college web sites and on SabbaticalHomes.
One thing you'll need to be adamant about with the college kids is no smoking, of any kind, by them or their guests, in the house. STR guests do not want to smell that when renting a place.
"Part of our idea is to create an investment that also benefits us- we are paying for an apartment now (in this town) and likely will have more children attending there as well. It will be a pain, but so is writing a $900 check every month for 1 bedroom haha"....
Buy the house at the right price (there's the rub in Flagstaff right now) that cash flows enough - make it a STR, take the cash flow, and pay for the student housing. You can block off weekends or times when you want to visit (checkup on) your kid, and maybe even get her to help a bit with the STR management or upkeep. Property management for an entrepreneurial business will look good on the kid's applications when they get out of college.
As a former college student and a current Student Housing investor, I don't see how this is possible outside of your daughter and her friends. To have college kids move all of their furniture/belongings/LIFE, into the garage before Winter Break, after they just got done with Finals kicking their butts, and to have to come back and essentially move AGAIN before the Spring Semester starts... I just don't see college kids doing that. If you're going to do Student Housing, make it a full year lease (if that's the culture in Flagstaff) or make it a STR, but don't try to do both.
I went to school in San Diego as an out of state student. We rented a house near the beach, the property was furnished, and we had a 9 month lease. We moved all of our stuff at the end of the school year and the landlord did weekly rentals all summer long. It was actually very common for the beach markets near school to operate that way. If you furnish the place and make it easier on students, I bet you’ll find some that love the idea of not moving furniture, and having a nicer place, while some parents will love only paying for 9 months.
I've been researching this scenario / option as well, though in a smaller market with a small private college nearby. Mainly because the off-season would be pretty slow for a STR on a lake (mid-west winters…) but I think summers would do really well. I think it's doable as long as you pick your renters wisely. Also think it would be hard to try and rent holidays during the school season, I'd likely just do the full 9ish month lease for the students so moving their belongings in and out isn't an issue.
I went to school in San Diego as an out of state student. We rented a house near the beach, the property was furnished, and we had a 9 month lease. We moved all of our stuff at the end of the school year and the landlord did weekly rentals all summer long. It was actually very common for the beach markets near school to operate that way. If you furnish the place and make it easier on students, I bet you’ll find some that love the idea of not moving furniture, and having a nicer place, while some parents will love only paying for 9 months.
Was the unit on Jamaica court, mission beach? Just curious if you could have been in one of our 2 units. Not likely.
We started our 2 STRs in San Diego beach area (Mission Beach) with student housing in the school year and STRs in the summer. We gave the student tenants the option of using our furniture and taking care of it or lose the garage and provide their own furniture. Parking is a premium near the beach so most student tenants chose to use our furniture.
We transitioned to full time STR after a couple of years (maybe 2002) but when the Great Recession happened we switch back to this model until the STR market picked up again a few years later.
In 2020, I may have done better as a hybrid but never converted. Rents were down ~$60k from 2019 levels as rentals were banned from March to June and from prior to Thanksgiving through the new year. In addition, with attractions being closed including the beach for some of that time, the STRs were impacted even during the time they were permitted to be rented (Increased vacancy and slightly reduced rents).
I do question if students will be willing to move out for the fairly short winter break and if that will result in reduction of rent you can obtain from the students. It is a hassle.
The thing about summer is many student housing charges for 12 months even though student only needs it 9 months. If the student only needs the unit 9 months, they can pay 33% more for the unit for the 9 months and have same housing cost as paying the reduced rent 12 months. We made sure the students understood this because it meant that the student could live at the beach typically for not much more yearly house expense than with the 12 month lease not near the beach.
In summary hybrid STR can work. Not sure if the winter break STR is going to work.
Ha ha. It WAS on mission beach, but was 20+ years ago. We lived in the Surf Rider apartments between Liverpool and Lido, but had friends up and down the beach renting in similar situations.
I'm sure it was easier on you when your student tenants chose the furnished option, but sounds like you were able to give them the option as you had the garage on site. Otherwise, you'd likely need to figure out a moving truck and storage rental for the STR furniture that would cut into the STR summer profits.
Your strategy is sound enough. Do it and see how it works for you. We are in a similar situation with a house in Fort Collins, CO. The house is about 5 or 6 blocks away from campus in a sweet residential area. 1000 sq feet, 2 bedrooms, 1 bath. We initially rented it as an unfurnished long term primarily to students. About 8 years ago we furnished the house and started renting short term.
Our house has a fenced back yard and we allow guests to bring their dogs. This has been a huge driver for us. We encourage stays of one month or more with favorable monthly pricing. This has worked great for us. Our demographic for renters leans heavily towards 1) older couples who are visiting their kids, who are often having kids, and 2) people moving to the area who need time to shop the market (or people who are building and need a place locally where they can stay atop the process).
I think that Flagstaff and Fort Collins are similar. They are both groovy places that people want to be and are moving into at an alarming rate. Graduates try to figure out how they can stay and build a life. Grand parents like to spend time with the grand kids. Older people take great care of the house (generally). Fewer rentals means less housekeeping, less time managing the rentals, etc.
It took a few years for this to come together. Now the house is usually in demand and does well. We don't make a killing but we do fine, and we get to use the place when we want. Mid-winter does not rent well but we still get some bookings. When the climate is mild the place is always booked.
No kidding. You also got what I like to call the Big 3 in Fort Collins driving some serious job growth; Woodward, Broadcom, and Budweiser. Very popular for the engineering types.