Hi there - I'm considering buying a STR out of state (I live in the SF Bay Area, so costs are pretty outrageous here). I'd love any advice on identifying and vetting properties from afar. I'm also curious if anyone has worked with Awning to purchase a STR...some of their listings do look quite good. Many thanks!
I would consider taking a look at this article by @Leslie Anne Morris - she is very experienced and highlights some great points here. Get in touch with local operators / agents / property managers in the area(s) you are looking at - they will have the best "boots on the ground" info available!
Real Estate Agent · NH & MA · Member since 2021 · 457 posts · 291 votes
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I bought my first rental property out of state and I will say if you aren't well versed in real estate investing or the industry as a whole, you will find it very stressful. I typically advise people to buy at least in driving distance from them from the first one, unless they are very comfortable with the idea, that way they at least get started.
Anyways, if you do buy out of state, I would recommend getting a realtor local to the area as their connections can be huge (market knowledge, knowing the right properties, handymen, cleaners, etc). The airdna website can give you a starting point for understanding revenues in the area you are interested in.
Can't say I've worked with awning though, hope this helps!
Tampa, FL · Member since 2022 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
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Hey Monica!
I am a medium sized PM in Tampa Bay area, and actually most of our clients are out of state (quite a few from SF area too). I would make sure you have a Realtor or PM who is well versed in the area, and make sure you have a plan for furnishing and any renovations that the property may need, and make sure your expectations are realistic for all things; everything from the purchase, renovations (if any), furnishing, listing, and all things the PM does or does not do. I hope that helps! If you are interested in the Florida market let me know and I can give you more specific advice
Look for agents that align with your interest. Interview a few and see what is a good fit for your STR aspirations. The agent you choose should be an investor themselves because they are going to have the rolodex of plumbers, cleaners, lawn care, etc. that are reputable and low cost. If you are not self managing, make sure to see if they can provide you with plenty of referrals of STR hosts that are cost effective and have superhost status.
Good luck. Please reach out if I can answer any additional questions.
Investor · Dublin, CA · Member since 2019 · 167 posts · 134 votes
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There are some good books including some here on BP that focus on STR investing. Avery Carl's book is a great place to start. Plenty of Youtubers out there as well which I'm sure you've listed to on BP podcasts or through watching videos.
I started out partnering for out of state and have really just found great people that aligned with my interests and goals through connecting on BP. Networking is a great first step.
Real Estate Broker · Austin, TX · Member since 2022 · 30 posts · 24 votes
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I'm not confident in Awnings ability to properly represent you in a sale. Their preferred agents for Austin are all based out of Houston which is an entirely different market. I like what they're doing on the tech side, but you need an agent who knows the local area, local STR regulations, and booking trends.
Hi there - I'm considering buying a STR out of state (I live in the SF Bay Area, so costs are pretty outrageous here). I'd love any advice on identifying and vetting properties from afar. I'm also curious if anyone has worked with Awning to purchase a STR...some of their listings do look quite good. Many thanks!
My recipe :
- only purchase STR at the resort destination only so you have no problem with permits etc etc - purchase with min. 50% down - have the STR PM in place before you even bid (very important) - do intel on your competition for actual cash flows.
Hi there - I'm considering buying a STR out of state (I live in the SF Bay Area, so costs are pretty outrageous here). I'd love any advice on identifying and vetting properties from afar. I'm also curious if anyone has worked with Awning to purchase a STR...some of their listings do look quite good. Many thanks!
My recipe :
- only purchase STR at the resort destination only so you have no problem with permits etc etc - purchase with min. 50% down - have the STR PM in place before you even bid (very important) - do intel on your competition for actual cash flows.
@Carlos Ptriawan - thanks for the advice - what's the logic for 50% down? And are you able to explain the importance of having PM in place before bidding?
Hi there - I'm considering buying a STR out of state (I live in the SF Bay Area, so costs are pretty outrageous here). I'd love any advice on identifying and vetting properties from afar. I'm also curious if anyone has worked with Awning to purchase a STR...some of their listings do look quite good. Many thanks!
My recipe :
- only purchase STR at the resort destination only so you have no problem with permits etc etc - purchase with min. 50% down - have the STR PM in place before you even bid (very important) - do intel on your competition for actual cash flows.
@Carlos Ptriawan - thanks for the advice - what's the logic for 50% down? And are you able to explain the importance of having PM in place before bidding?
50% down with 6-7% interest rate will give you bit of further cash-flow with today house price. PM ? I don't have time with the guest hassle, I outsource everything to PM.
Realtor · San Antonio, TX · Member since 2021 · 150 posts · 107 votes
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You're on the right forum to find help in your investment! Once you've selected a market, reach out to other operators on the platforms and ask about operating costs, demand, booking patterns, pricing, etc. You can also talk to local investor agents and property managers whom manage STR's and get their insight. On the other hand, if you are able to self manage you'll save quite a bit on your bottom line. Good Luck!!
I would consider taking a look at this article by @Leslie Anne Morris - she is very experienced and highlights some great points here. Get in touch with local operators / agents / property managers in the area(s) you are looking at - they will have the best "boots on the ground" info available!
Real Estate Agent · Outer Banks, NC · Member since 2019 · 168 posts · 116 votes
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I will echo what Christian Ehlers said - if you are going to invest out of state or out of your area, make it drivable. That way, if something comes up, atleast you are not a flight away. Definitely get a realtor with local knowledge of best areas, and of short term rentals. I have a couple of them that are about 7 hour drive away, so if needed, it is not the end of the world to drive out to them. Also when looking to invest out of state or area, see what the population is and whether it will be easy to find different trades such as cleaners, handymen, etc. For my out of area investments, I messaged other Airbnb owners for cleaner recommendations etc - while some did not respond with any help, others were very helpful and I ended up getting multiple peoples information and was able to put together a good team. If the area you are investing in has many short term rentals, perhaps you can even find an agent in that area that owns a few and can help build a team for you. I sell real estate in the Outer Banks of NC - and also own STRs here - most of my clients are investors looking for the same and choose me because of that expertise. Good luck!! Keep us posted!
Rental Property Investor · Ellsworth, ME · Member since 2021 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
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We own two properties over 2000 miles away from where we live. They were also our first two investments. You can do it. You'll learn a lot as you go and will spend a fair amount of time in the "Holy crap! This better work, we're spending so much money" phase. I would recommend buying a property that will get to market and be ready as the busy season hits. You're going to want the rising tide of the busy season to help you off to a good start. It'll also set you at ease and do wonders for your emotional health and ego to see your highest earning months of the calendar right away.