Sarasota STR Deal or NO Deal

Sarasota STR Deal or NO Deal

Member since 2022 · 11 posts · 2 votes

I have a great realtor who started his own boutique STR business with 4 luxury properties looking to grow to 10. He presented a deal coming up for 600k 3bed/2bath within city limits (5day rentals) no pool. He wrote out below strategy for the next 24months with a planned pool 50k install after 7 months. How needs light preparation for STR mainly paint and furnishings probably revenue neutral first year.

Challenge: I am looking to finance the deal potentially 10yr arm 20% down. I assume between down, closing, and furnishings I will be in for 150K year one. I am looking for creative ways to get the pool financed in mortgage or financed. Don't know if equity will be in property in 10months and if refi will be an option in 10months. Potential is to wait on the pool till year 2 but revenue will be much less. Realtor business owner will manage the property as a master tenent for 25% and 75% myself (hands off). He is doing this with three other investors and confident on his numbers. This is a great area near downtown and top school with 10k sqft land within city limits.

So deal or no deal ? and how could I strategize this any better to keep only 150k initial investment as my max out of pocket with pool?

Taxes: $550/mth

Insurance: $300/mth

Mortgage P and I (assuming 80/20 loan with a 10 year arm at 7% interest with a 30 yr amortization schedule): $3166

Utilities (including lawn, FPL, Water/sewer, Pest, Internet and streaming): $500

Miscellaneous: $200/mth

Total Monthly Cost: $4716

Revenue projections from January 1 through August 1 (at which time you will take it off the market for 4 months to build a pool):

January: 95% occupancy at $350/nt = $10,307

Feb: 95% occupancy at $350/nt = $9,310

March: 100% occupancy at $350/nt = $10,850

April: 95% occupancy at $325/nt = $9975

May: 60% occupancy at $200/nt = $3720

June: 75% occupancy at $250/nt =$5625

July: 75% occupancy at $250/nt=$5812

Total Revenue: $55,600

Mgmt Fee (25%) = $13,900

Total 7 month expense: $33,012

Net Profit: $8688

And here is the Annual Revenue projection with pool beginning December 2023- December 2024:

December: 75% occupancy at $350/nt = $8137

January: 95% occupancy at $450/nt = $13,250

Feb: 95% occupancy at $450/nt = $11,970

March: 100% occupancy at $450/nt = $13,950

April: 95% occupancy at $425/nt = $12,112

May: 65% occupancy at $280/nt = $5642

June: 80% occupancy at $350/nt =$8400

July 80% occupancy at $350/nt =$8680

August: 65% occupancy at $300/nt = $6045

September: 50% occupancy at $250/nt =$3750

October: 55% occupancy at $250/nt =$4262

November: 55% occupancy at $260/nt =$4290

Gross revenue: $100,488

Gross Expenses: $81,714

Net Profit: $18,774

Annual Mortgage Principal paydown in first 10 years: $7K/yr

Total average annual gain beginning with year 2: $25,774

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USA · Member since 2014 · 119 posts · 102 votes
3y

What does being near a "top school" have to do with STR?

Realtor wants to make a comission on the sale and then get recurring revenue afterwards. He takes zero risk while you bear all of it, meanwhile getting mediocre returns even with his inflated revenue projections.

I say no deal on this one.

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  • I​nvestor & Agent · Tulsa, OK · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    3y

    Good breakdown and I can’t speak to this deal in particular; I would say two phrases come to mind: 

    1. “trust, but, verify.” 

    2. “With a multitude of counselors, your plans will have success.” 

  • Michael BaumPro Member
    Olympia, WA · Member since 2016 · 8k+ posts · 7k+ votes
    3y

    So @Luis Sosa, the only way you get this "deal" is for him to manage the property?

  • Real Estate Agent · Chicago, IL · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    3y

    Maybe self manage and then will have a wider margin. $8k on a STR of that size is mehhhh

  • Member since 2022 · 11 posts · 2 votes
    3y

    @Michael Baum He presented it to me as an investor because he knows he can get it for 50k less currently listed at 650k. But I can purchase it myself and do my own management. 

    @Henry Lazerow year 1 is 8k no pool by year 2 with pool 18k+ he would do the complete management as he knows the market best and has a system with other properties he manages. 

    I can do my own thing but really do not have the time to do it right and pull the numbers he is pulling from the gate. I would probably just be another STR getting 4.6 ratings making 50-60k. I think in the future I can run the property myself but right now just want to be a passive investor.

  • Michael BaumPro Member
    Olympia, WA · Member since 2016 · 8k+ posts · 7k+ votes
    3y

    Well, that wouldn't be something I would get into myself. No control and low return. The 18k after the pool is nice, but you have to pay off the pool. 

  • Member since 2022 · 11 posts · 2 votes
    3y

    I agree with similar thoughts, I guess its a long term play if I do it.

  • Investor · Roanoke, TX · Member since 2013 · 49 posts · 26 votes
    3y

    Did Sarasota recently change their STR regulations? Last I checked they are 7 day minimum not 5 day. Doesn't sound like much but can definitely be impactful.

  • USA · Member since 2014 · 119 posts · 102 votes
    3y

    What does being near a "top school" have to do with STR?

    Realtor wants to make a comission on the sale and then get recurring revenue afterwards. He takes zero risk while you bear all of it, meanwhile getting mediocre returns even with his inflated revenue projections.

    I say no deal on this one.

  • Member since 2022 · 11 posts · 2 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Brian Oney:

    Did Sarasota recently change their STR regulations? Last I checked they are 7 day minimum not 5 day. Doesn't sound like much but can definitely be impactful.


  • Member since 2022 · 11 posts · 2 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Luis Sosa:
    Quote from @Brian Oney:

    Did Sarasota recently change their STR regulations? Last I checked they are 7 day minimum not 5 day. Doesn't sound like much but can definitely be impactful.


    you are correct 7 days.



  • Member since 2022 · 11 posts · 2 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Steve W.:

    What does being near a "top school" have to do with STR?

    Realtor wants to make a comission on the sale and then get recurring revenue afterwards. He takes zero risk while you bear all of it, meanwhile getting mediocre returns even with his inflated revenue projections.

    I say no deal on this one.

    Realtor is selling future potential. But I like your summary was thinking the same and thanks for validating it. Makes me question the realtors true intentions.
  • Joshua MessingerBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Poconos, PA · Member since 2020 · 443 posts · 264 votes
    3y

    Love what @Nate Sanow said! Couldn't agree more. Alway's get more than one opinion from someone who specializes in the industry! 

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