Skip to content
×
Try PRO Free Today!
BiggerPockets Pro offers you a comprehensive suite of tools and resources
Market and Deal Finder Tools
Deal Analysis Calculators
Property Management Software
Exclusive discounts to Home Depot, RentRedi, and more
$0
7 days free
$828/yr or $69/mo when billed monthly.
$390/yr or $32.5/mo when billed annually.
7 days free. Cancel anytime.
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here

Join Over 3 Million Real Estate Investors

Create a free BiggerPockets account to comment, participate, and connect with over 3 million real estate investors.
Use your real name
By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.
The community here is like my own little personal real estate army that I can depend upon to help me through ANY problems I come across.
General Landlording & Rental Properties
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

Updated almost 8 years ago on . Most recent reply

User Stats

2
Posts
0
Votes
Bryce Redd
  • Investor
  • Fremont, CA
0
Votes |
2
Posts

Average Landlording Prices

Bryce Redd
  • Investor
  • Fremont, CA
Posted

Hi there, first time poster, long time listener of the podcasts.  I'll get straight to the heart of my question:  I'm losing money on an investment property which, according to market prices, *should* be very profitable, but why?  Details:

  • 4 plex, each unit rented at $700 and has 2 bedrooms 1 bath.  Gross for 2016 was $30,163 (implies vacancy loses $283 per month)
  • Bought in 2012 for $300k, monthly payment: $1499 -- $853 interest, $354 principle, $184 taxes, $108 insurance
  • $482 average maintenance bill
  • $196 in management fees
  • $121 monthly water bill
  • $120 monthly garbage bill

Which brings a positive net of $99 per month in 2016.  I have a few direct questions, but any feedback is appreciated.

  • Is 10% vacancy typical?  The property is in Utah County which supposedly has a super hot market: https://goo.gl/moGPG6
  • Do the insurance, maintenance, and utility fees look normal?

I've received offers for over $400k on the property, but I can barely make things work as is.  Any advice?  Where have I messed up?

Most Popular Reply

User Stats

195
Posts
133
Votes
Rebecca Belnap
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Lehi, UT
133
Votes |
195
Posts
Rebecca Belnap
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Lehi, UT
Replied

$700 per month for a 2 bedroom?  What city is it in?  Even Springville and Spanish Fork are going for more than that.  I have a 1 bedroom in Lehi that is going for $875, but that does include all utilities.  Still, your rents are low.  Vacancy in Utah county is basically 0.  The maintenance fees seem high also.  How old is your 4plex?  Yes, you could get at least $400,000 for a 4plex almost anywhere in Utah county.

The problem is either your management company or your units are 80+ years old and falling apart.  Without knowing where they are and what they are, it's hard to tell, but I'd be happy to look at it.

Loading replies...