Question about 9/11/14 webinar

Question about 9/11/14 webinar

Investor · Manhattan Beach CA; Columbus, OH · Member since 2014 · 37 posts · 13 votes

Brandon:

I found a link to this webinar and watched it on demand (9-11-14).  Anyway, I have a question on your deal analysis of the duplex.

Why are you factoring in garbage and water or any utilities.  In Southern California, the tenant is paying for ALL utilities (at least mine are).  Is that not customary in your area?

If you add the $100 for water, $45 for garbage, and manage it yourself to save $134.20, then this Duplex is cash flowing $300.08 per month.

After it is fixed up with your $10,000 in repairs, you can probably raise the rents slightly as well, while adding washer and dryers to get further increase cash flow. 

The Duplex is only $60,000... how can you lose on that cash flow? 

If you have $6,000 down, $10,000 invested in repairs and are making $3600 a year, you have everything you put into it back in 4.4 years.  So, you end up with another cash flowing asset in your portfolio that you no longer have any money into. 

It's also possibly an asset you could trade... to upgrade into a better property.

Isn't $20.88 being awfully conservative in analysis of this duplex?

Just playing devil's advocate... what do you think?

Barry Smith

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  • Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2014 · 116 posts · 41 votes
    12y

    Does this analysis also include debt service/mortgage? That can kill the $300/mo cash flow.

    Otherwise, using your numbers, that deal appears to have 22.5% cash-on-cash return, which is nothing to sneeze at.

  • Investor · Hagerstown, MD · Member since 2014 · 299 posts · 140 votes
    12y

    @Barry Smith 

     Do you have the link to this webinar? Can you post it, please?

    On the subject of utilities, for my area, the water and sewer has to stay in the owners' name, and if within city limits, also trash is included. Some landlords send the bill to the tenants and ask them to pay for it, but I have found that tenants are unreliable in paying the landlords back. So I pay for the water and just raise the rent to cover an estimated amount. I am sure that it is different in each city.

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