I got greedy and Credit scores dropped guess I over did it.

I got greedy and Credit scores dropped guess I over did it.

Real Estate Investor · Pryor, OK · Member since 2015 · 46 posts · 12 votes

     I don't know a lot about scores.     My lowest credit score usually is in  750's +

 In the past six weeks  I picked up three new credit cards and some the month before.

   I have been searching for bargain properties.    Thought I would get an extra half dozen credit cards on hand with 0% for 18 months 

Thinking I could cover any major calamity with them and maybe get a cheap property or two using them and still stay under 25% usage before getting a loan.

Currently My credit utilization is 11%,

Just hit with 7 inquiries from getting credit cards

  We moved several months ago if that matters 

No late pays

  Today my  lowest score was 686 all three dropped.

I would guess its all the new credit hurting me

Any idea on time limit for scores to go back up?

if I get a loan don't want a higher rate.

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Investor · Detroit, MI · Member since 2014 · 755 posts · 462 votes
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When you pull your own Credit Report multiple times

it bumps off the inquires  from TU and EQ but not from EX

Little known fact. 

Also look at your individual cards if one of them is high

utilization it can dramatically lower your score even if overall

your percentage is proper

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  • Investor · Titusville, PA · Member since 2015 · 298 posts · 150 votes
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    Probably in about two years they would go up a little bit because of the time since having the hard inquiries. It will take longer for it to go up substantially because your average age of credit availability has probably gone down significantly.  Also, a high percentage of utilization of one card is bad as well.  Not just the high utilization of your overall credit availability.  Of course,  your intention is probably to max them out or come close to it by using them for your deals, so, as long as you pay them down quickly I don't believe it would have any long-term effect to use them as much as you need to for deals. If there are any cards with less than ideal terms and conditions and that have a lower  availability then what is reasonably useful for your purposes, you may consider closing the accounts of those which are the youngest to at least boost your average age of credit by a little bit.

  • Real Estate Investor · Pryor, OK · Member since 2015 · 46 posts · 12 votes
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    @Daniel Mohnkern I had not considered age of credit , 

        Two years because of the enquiries sucks

    Live and learn

  • Investor · Titusville, PA · Member since 2015 · 298 posts · 150 votes
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    Indeed. I try to get the biggest bang for my buck(the largest credit limit possible) on one advance in credit and do it rarely so as to make it worth the ding I'm getting.  The best way I've found is to try to get my current creditors to increase my limits rather than open new lines whenever possible because it increases my limits without decreasing my average age of credit.

  • Real Estate Agent · Virginia Beach, VA · Member since 2012 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    I do know it takes 2 years before inquiries expire, and we were also told that moving does affect it, maybe length of time at residence is a factor.  We learned the hard way not to listen when, for example, your loan officer says it's best to run your credit again after 90 days to keep your pre-approval active when we didn't find what we were looking for in the first 90-day window, that it counts as separate inquiries, even though we hadn't purchased anything and it technically was for the same purchase goal.   It did take over 2 years to raise our score back up, and we are now extremely cautious about any new credit inquiries.   

  • Investor · Detroit, MI · Member since 2014 · 755 posts · 462 votes
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    When you pull your own Credit Report multiple times

    it bumps off the inquires  from TU and EQ but not from EX

    Little known fact. 

    Also look at your individual cards if one of them is high

    utilization it can dramatically lower your score even if overall

    your percentage is proper

  • Specialist · Clermont, FL · Member since 2015 · 91 posts · 35 votes
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    Just yesterday I heard about something called rapid rescore. I don't know if this is helpful to your situation, but here's an article I found about it on the CreditCards.com website. http://www.creditcards.com/credit-card-news/rapid-...

    I haven't had a reason to put it into practice yet, but if you do, please let me know how it works out. 

  • Real Estate Investor · Pryor, OK · Member since 2015 · 46 posts · 12 votes
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        Loading up on credit cards was something an investor who went bankrupt recommended  to me. I should have known better. 

      But I have to say they did well in RE  for along time  and I thought I could learn a little from them.

         A few months ago I put a little over 8k on a card ,the same person told me that if I had two or more cards from same bank it wouldn't hurt me they would average out both limits

    Well that didn't pan out so well ,showed up as  40+% on one card

    When I saw that,  I jpaid it off ,and  score went right back up

    So now I need to learn ins and outs of the credit game before I dig a deeper hole to climb out of!   LOL

  • Urbana, IL · Member since 2012 · 1k+ posts · 425 votes
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    I've done the same things and I didn't get a big hit on my inquiries. Were all your inquires within a 14 day time period? As long as they are clumped together and of the same type of inquiry it should count as only 1 hit. You can dispute this with the credit companies if not.

    I have also increased limits and picked up more cards over time to keep my usage rate low compared to what I've got available. 

  • Real Estate Investor · Pryor, OK · Member since 2015 · 46 posts · 12 votes
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    @Steven J.

      I got the seven new cards in about a two month period 

    and for got to mention  I had paid off a loan from a credit union.

      I was told at the credit union (I've been with over 20 years )that home, auto and student loans inquiries are seen differently than ones for credit cards 

    If you get a quantity that the risk level goes way up and lots of peeps end up bankrupt.

       After  telling me this I was asked if I was interested in getting a limit increase on the cards we have with them.  LOL  that I was good with them and they would be happy to help me in anyway. 

      Good news is my lowest score is back to 748 

    I ran across almost 300 hundred acres I was thinking about and the credit union "who would be happy to help me "  only wants a arm and a leg down , and of course your first born!!!

       It's woods and pasture , not houses.

  • Guy with Great Hair · Austin, TX · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 4k+ votes
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    The inquiries won't hurt you too bad. You get 7-8 in 12 months before it negatively affects you anyway. Also, inquiries of similar security in a 2 week period are weighed less severe. 

    What probably hurt you most is all the new account history like @Daniel Mohnkern mentioned. Your average age of credit history dropped significantly. 

  • Bedford, NH · Member since 2012 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    Go to creditboards dot com.  Search for 'bumpage' or b*

    This will detail the strategy Richard Dunlop alludes to above.

    It won't get you all the way back, and it will only help for inquiries on Transunion and maybe Equifax (Experian inqs cannot be bumped.)  And it won't get you all the way back.  But you could recover may 20 points.

  • Real Estate Investor · Pryor, OK · Member since 2015 · 46 posts · 12 votes
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    @Alexander Felice

    Average age of credit went down a lot  not much over four years now.

     Lowest score is back to 748 so I guess that is good enough.

    I received a few more card offers from places who just gave me cards I am going to wait awhile : )

  • Laurel, MD · Member since 2015 · 101 posts · 30 votes
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    Just awestruck at how this system works. 

    OP is looking to finance property purchase on credit cards.

    I have collateral. Fully rented  owned free and clear and the bank will not lend me a dime because my credit score is not at least 680 ( I've never needed to borrow). 

  • Real Estate Investor · Pryor, OK · Member since 2015 · 46 posts · 12 votes
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    @Account Closed

      I also have properties owned free and clear.

    If Necessary I can use credit cards that have 0% interest for 18 to 22 months   Or money I have  on hand to buy or repair properties without having to wait for a loan, sometimes you have to move fast and can't play around.

      I could purchase and fix a place during that time frame and  then get a loan.

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