Need help! The bank wants me to sell my property.

Need help! The bank wants me to sell my property.

Real Estate Agent · Cedar Rapids, IA · Member since 2017 · 53 posts · 27 votes

First off, This is my first post outside the confines of the local forums, so hello to all you wonderful people!

A little background, I am a seasonal Wildland firefighter for the U.S. Forest Service, this means I'm gone a lot in the summers.  While I was home for a bit this summer my realtor showed me an off-market deal on a 3 plex and I was able to get an offer accepted.  The bank approved financing and we were a go!  Timing wasn't great but it was a good deal so who cares!  

Off to Oregon I went for 20 days with spotty cell service with much anticipation of closing on the new property when I returned.  I own another house, it was a live in flip, I bought it when I was 20 years old and my father co-signed because of my lack of credit.  The flip process was done but I was planning on keeping it and turning it into a rental.  That is when the bank contacted me and said that my debt to income ratios would not work if I wanted to keep both properties.  They said the house would have to be listed for sale before the closing date in order for them to lend on the 3 plex.  This was bad news however I wasn't too worried.  I had lived there for 2 years 6 months so the tax situation was covered and with the value add of the flip I could take the cash and reinvest it in new properties.  The numbers would still have been way better to hold it as a rental (nearly 2% rule with my before rehab purchase price), but I didn't have time or the ability to try to look into other financing while I was in Oregon.

Fast forward to 1 week from closing and the bank says that they will have to take my name off the title for the house and leave it in just my father's name. I was away for work and did not have time to get into the details with the bank at the time. I didn't want to lose the 3 plex so we went along with what they said, but it didn't sit right that they were going to remove my name from the title (to meet debt to income requirements) and then also mandate that the property is listed on the MLS (even though my name wasn't on the title).

The 3 plex was purchased and the City rental Inspection is this week.  My father was very generous by putting up with the bank during this process, however he is not interested in having a rental property in his name.  I am working on a way that I can keep the house and use it as a rental.  Right now it is sitting on the market going into winter in Iowa (2 inches of snow today), we all know how many people want to move into a new house in the snow.  I have meetings with several banks this week to discuss refinancing, However I worry that I will run into the same debt to income issues.  I am also looking into doing a quit-claim deed, however I know that my dad would be uneasy with that idea.  I have built relationships with a few investors who would be interested in partnering but it is not a large property and may not be worth the time to manage if the cash flow was split.

Are there any other ways that I could turn this property into a rental instead of having it leech my savings for the next 4 months til the market picks up?  Please help!

Nick Wallraff

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  • Patrick LiskaPro Member
    Investor · Verona, NJ · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 832 votes
    7y

    I am surprised that they are telling you this, especially with a co-signer on the 1st property, that must mean his credit is not that great ? sell that property to an LLC that you and your father create, this way it is protected as an llc, it is sold as the bank wants. I have a feeling you also have a good interest rate right now on that property ? they probably want to get that loan off their books and deal with loans with higher interest rates, so they are telling you that you have to sell. unless someone else has an idea on this, you may want to seek an attorneys advice or find another lender, even if it is hard money until you find a bank.

  • Real Estate Professional · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2012 · 23k+ posts · 13k+ votes
    7y

    Seems like the DTI issue is because your house isn't rents yet, so no income from It to balance out your DTI.

    Question....did you sign Anything that said you didn't any longer own this property, or that you Are selling it? Your name is still on the original loan, even though your name may be off titlenow, so that should Not have helped your DTI.

    I always discourage people from doing shady, mtg fraud related actions,  it barring you stating you Will sell, or have already sold, I’d explore putting the title back like it was, and carry on.

    @Chris Mason May have some better insight.

  • Real Estate Agent · Cedar Rapids, IA · Member since 2017 · 53 posts · 27 votes
    7y

    That is interesting. The bank did not have me sign anything saying I would sell the house, just needed proof that the house was on the MLS before the closing date.

    You are correct that the mortgage for my house was still listed as a liability on the 3 Plex mortgage paperwork. If this is the case then why would they make us go through all the effort to change who's name is on the title if it doesn't change the DTI?

    I absolutely do not want to do anything fraudulent or illegal.  Just don't want to sell a good rental if I can help it.  

  • Real Estate Agent · Cedar Rapids, IA · Member since 2017 · 53 posts · 27 votes
    7y

    For an update, I have met with several banks and it looks like the best route is to switch to a commercial loan instead of a personal loan. That way they can use projected rental income to make the DTI situation look more favorable. I have chosen one lender in particular and the current plan of action is to finish the rental property paperwork with the city (in process) then list the property for rent and leave it up for sale as well. Once it rents out then I will be able to take the signed lease agreement to the bank and lock in financing and get out of my current mortgage. Thanks for your input! It definitely helped to put me on the right track.

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