So, what now?

So, what now?

Flipper/Rehabber · Riverside, CA · Member since 2008 · 44 posts · 26 votes

Well, that's it. I've officially put all my money into properties, refinanced it out, bought more property and so on. I'm left with not enough to buy another one unless it is turnkey. I don't want turnkey properties though because they're not really much of an investment when you consider how much I can get a piece of junk for and how much I would spend to fix it up (far less than buying something that's turnkey). Without taking on cash partners, what are my options to get more junkers? Some may say hard money, but the interest rates for that are ridiculous; not to mention the large payment I have to make up front. Some may say go to a bank and get a business loan based on my assets. Only problem is that they're all financed to at least 75% LTV, so I don't think a bank would want to get involved with such a little margin. How could someone that's in my situation (who just wants to buy and hold and maybe (just maybe) do a flip or two) get financing or get more properties? I feel like I'm blowing the biggest opportunity of my lifetime and I'm sitting here looking at my local MLS with over 1000 potential investment properties but I have no way I can immediately think of to get any of them. Any suggestions?

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  • Manhattan, NY · Member since 2008 · 801 posts · 61 votes
    17y

    You need to start developing private sources of funding.

  • Residential Real Estate Broker · Payson, AZ · Member since 2009 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    17y

    Sub2

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Riverside, CA · Member since 2008 · 44 posts · 26 votes
    17y

    How willing are the banks of these dilapidated REOs to do a sub2? Are you having luck with that in AZ?

  • Rental Property Investor · Mercer Island, WA · Member since 2008 · 22k+ posts · 14k+ votes
    17y

    Are the ones you already have spinning off cash? Are you talking a handful of properties or 10's of properties?

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Riverside, CA · Member since 2008 · 44 posts · 26 votes
    17y

    All my properties cash flow and we're talking a handful. I'd like to get to the 10's and 100's mark, but I don't have enough cash on hand to get there as quick as I may like.

  • Rental Property Investor · Mercer Island, WA · Member since 2008 · 22k+ posts · 14k+ votes
    17y

    You may have to listen to Taz and Nick, then, and try to find sellers who will do subject to's or seller financing. Or, bite the bullet and use hard money. Even then, though, you're going to be refinancing into the Fannie Mae guidelines. That means 70% max LTV and six months PITIA (A="anything else", more or less) payments per property if you're over four.

    If your deals are good enough, you might find a bank that will do commercial loans. Some members say they have good enough deals and a good enough relationship to still get 100% commercial financing. They have a lot of property, though, and a long track record.

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Riverside, CA · Member since 2008 · 44 posts · 26 votes
    17y

    I've given this some thought over the weekend and am in the process of trying to find hard money. I've also re-thought the idea of taking on a cash partner. Fortunately, I have a family friend who is a well known real estate attorney who could probably help me set up a partnership between me and anyone interested. My only problem is that I wouldn't know the first place to start my search for cash partners. Who has enough cash on hand that isn't already doing something smart with it? I think convincing someone of the opportunity in front of us is the easy part. The hard part is definitely finding someone with that amount of liquid cash or that has some kind of LOC. Does anyone here have any ideas? Does anyone here know of anyone interested in getting into Southern California real estate investing?

  • Residential Real Estate Broker · Payson, AZ · Member since 2009 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    17y

    Why not start with you real estate attorney friend.

    You can do sub2's with minimal money.
    anther guy here Mike C has wrote some great post on how he does exactly, and I believe there is a good article on here somewhere that I thought was great...

  • Altus, OK · Member since 2008 · 2k+ posts · 690 votes
    17y
    Originally posted by Nick Johnson:
    Why not start with you real estate attorney friend.

    You can do sub2's with minimal money.
    anther guy here Mike C has wrote some great post on how he does exactly, and I believe there is a good article on here somewhere that I thought was great...

    Can you post the link to the article I can't find it.

  • Residential Real Estate Broker · Payson, AZ · Member since 2009 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    17y

    http://biggerpockets.com/articles/795

    it was a little hard to find but here ya go.

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    Developer · Santa Clarita, CA · Member since 2008 · 15k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    17y

    Nick,

    I don't think that was the right link you refered to. The one Mike C wrote about was a detailed description of how to sub2 and was much better than that.
    I will look as well becasue I read it and liked it as well.

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