Skip to content

Let's keep in touch

Subscribe to our newsletter for timely insights and actionable tips on your real estate journey.

By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions
×
Take Your Forum Experience
to the Next Level
Create a free account and join over 3 million investors sharing
their journeys and helping each other succeed.
Use your real name
By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.
Already a member?  Login here
Followed Discussions Followed Categories Followed People Followed Locations
Creative Real Estate Financing
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

User Stats

10
Posts
5
Votes
Christopher Benedict
  • Investor
  • Collegeville, PA
5
Votes |
10
Posts

Looking for creative options for seller financing

Christopher Benedict
  • Investor
  • Collegeville, PA
Posted

I came across a decent opportunity. Home is only 3 years old. The owner bought it for cash, so no mortgage. She stays on the property maybe 2 or 3 times a year when not traveling out of the country. She is looking to move to Florida, and can't sell this home due to:

1) She wants top dollar
2) The home sits next to a transfer pump station (eyesore)
3) It sits on a main road (traffic, noise)
4) The community pool is behind the home and visible from the deck

The home is in immaculate condition. We can buy it furnished. We think it will make a great short-term rental in a very office-space-heavy area.

I want to offer her a higher sale price (closer to what she wants) if we can make the deal work for us.

Any suggestions?

Option 1: I was thinking she gets her $650k, she holds the note on a 40 or 50 yr amort loan. Maybe no downpayment, maybe a large one if she needs it to buy in Florida.

Option 2: We give a 10% down, she holds a 90%LTV note. Maybe a 3 year balloon that we have to refi out of so she can buy in Tampa

Thoughts?

  • Christopher Benedict
  • 6108983363

Most Popular Reply

User Stats

13,782
Posts
19,953
Votes
Joe Villeneuve
#5 All Forums Contributor
  • Plymouth, MI
19,953
Votes |
13,782
Posts
Joe Villeneuve
#5 All Forums Contributor
  • Plymouth, MI
Replied

You're heading in the right direction.  What you want to do is combine pieces of both of your options together.  Also, remember that interest rates are also negotiable, and the seller gets all the money from the interest.  I do Seller Financing all the time.  It's my favorite strategy.  There are many ways to do it.  If you're interested let me know.

User Stats

13,782
Posts
19,953
Votes
Joe Villeneuve
#5 All Forums Contributor
  • Plymouth, MI
19,953
Votes |
13,782
Posts
Joe Villeneuve
#5 All Forums Contributor
  • Plymouth, MI
Replied

You're heading in the right direction.  What you want to do is combine pieces of both of your options together.  Also, remember that interest rates are also negotiable, and the seller gets all the money from the interest.  I do Seller Financing all the time.  It's my favorite strategy.  There are many ways to do it.  If you're interested let me know.

User Stats

1,166
Posts
888
Votes
Chris Davidson
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Boise, ID
888
Votes |
1,166
Posts
Chris Davidson
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Boise, ID
Replied

@Christopher Benedict you are getting there and have a few options to give them but not too many to confuse them. There are closing cost so either you will need to pay all those or have some downpayment to cover them otherwise the seller is paying to offload it. 

If they are stuck on a rate push the amortization out and do a balloon, otherwise I would work on getting the rate lower and the price they want as you will get mor principal paydown vs less with a longer amortization. IMO I want a 5+ balloon, but if the deal is right will do it with a shorter.

Find out what she is looking to do though if she needs a downpayment for a house in Tampa that will be an issue that has to be addressed some how. 

Rent to Retirement  logo
Rent to Retirement
|
Sponsored
New Build STR, 126% ROI + $90K Tax Deduction + $60K Cash Back! STR Loophole program - use cost seg to offset W2 income w/o RE Pro or min hours. No furnishing req!

User Stats

10
Posts
5
Votes
Christopher Benedict
  • Investor
  • Collegeville, PA
5
Votes |
10
Posts
Christopher Benedict
  • Investor
  • Collegeville, PA
Replied

I was thinking 3 options:

1: Highest sale price - owner holds note with rate/terms TBD

2: Middle sales price - Lease option, with a 3 year purchase

3. Lowest price - We scrap together 20-30% and private finance.

  • Christopher Benedict
  • 6108983363

User Stats

10
Posts
5
Votes
Christopher Benedict
  • Investor
  • Collegeville, PA
5
Votes |
10
Posts
Christopher Benedict
  • Investor
  • Collegeville, PA
Replied
Quote from @Chris Davidson:

@Christopher Benedict you are getting there and have a few options to give them but not too many to confuse them. There are closing cost so either you will need to pay all those or have some downpayment to cover them otherwise the seller is paying to offload it. 

If they are stuck on a rate push the amortization out and do a balloon, otherwise I would work on getting the rate lower and the price they want as you will get mor principal paydown vs less with a longer amortization. IMO I want a 5+ balloon, but if the deal is right will do it with a shorter.

Find out what she is looking to do though if she needs a downpayment for a house in Tampa that will be an issue that has to be addressed some how. 


 I don't think she will be stuck on a rate. She wants options, and is very open to creative, which is helpful.

Once we present these basic ideas, we will want to know 1) what does she need right now, monthly, to let us take the property over (and all headaches) and 2) how soon and how much will you need when you make you Tampa purchase. (Sounds like it is at least one or two years out)

  • Christopher Benedict
  • 6108983363

User Stats

10
Posts
5
Votes
Christopher Benedict
  • Investor
  • Collegeville, PA
5
Votes |
10
Posts
Christopher Benedict
  • Investor
  • Collegeville, PA
Replied
Quote from @Joe Villeneuve:

You're heading in the right direction.  What you want to do is combine pieces of both of your options together.  Also, remember that interest rates are also negotiable, and the seller gets all the money from the interest.  I do Seller Financing all the time.  It's my favorite strategy.  There are many ways to do it.  If you're interested let me know.


 I am making this my big push, as it is a win-win right now, alongside my property management business.

  • Christopher Benedict
  • 6108983363

User Stats

5,136
Posts
2,656
Votes
Wale Lawal
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Houston | Dallas | Austin, TX
2,656
Votes |
5,136
Posts
Wale Lawal
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Houston | Dallas | Austin, TX
Replied

@Christopher Benedict

Today’s investors should be equipped with not one but several financing options before approaching a deal. Going straight to a traditional lender for a mortgage may seem simple, but this approach will not always guarantee the best loan terms. In many cases, finding the best financing will require investors to get a little creative. That being said, there are so many unique ways to finance real estate it can be hard to fully understand what’s out there. The following creative financing options are a great place to start:

Cash-Out Refinance

Home Equity Line Of Credit

Personal Loan

Seller Financing

Lease Option

Self-Directed IRA

Hard Money

Private Money

FHA Loans

Crowdfunding

Cross Collateral

All the best!

business profile image
NETWORTH BUILDERS
5.0 stars
236 Reviews

User Stats

13,782
Posts
19,953
Votes
Joe Villeneuve
#5 All Forums Contributor
  • Plymouth, MI
19,953
Votes |
13,782
Posts
Joe Villeneuve
#5 All Forums Contributor
  • Plymouth, MI
Replied
Quote from @Christopher Benedict:
Quote from @Joe Villeneuve:

You're heading in the right direction.  What you want to do is combine pieces of both of your options together.  Also, remember that interest rates are also negotiable, and the seller gets all the money from the interest.  I do Seller Financing all the time.  It's my favorite strategy.  There are many ways to do it.  If you're interested let me know.


 I am making this my big push, as it is a win-win right now, alongside my property management business.

Not sure what you mean here.

User Stats

9
Posts
5
Votes
Replied
Quote from @Joe Villeneuve:

You're heading in the right direction.  What you want to do is combine pieces of both of your options together.  Also, remember that interest rates are also negotiable, and the seller gets all the money from the interest.  I do Seller Financing all the time.  It's my favorite strategy.  There are many ways to do it.  If you're interested let me know.


 How are you finding these seller financing deals?

User Stats

13,782
Posts
19,953
Votes
Joe Villeneuve
#5 All Forums Contributor
  • Plymouth, MI
19,953
Votes |
13,782
Posts
Joe Villeneuve
#5 All Forums Contributor
  • Plymouth, MI
Replied
Quote from @Stacy McElroy:
Quote from @Joe Villeneuve:

You're heading in the right direction.  What you want to do is combine pieces of both of your options together.  Also, remember that interest rates are also negotiable, and the seller gets all the money from the interest.  I do Seller Financing all the time.  It's my favorite strategy.  There are many ways to do it.  If you're interested let me know.


 How are you finding these seller financing deals?

You don't find them, you offer them...to owners that have 100% equity.

User Stats

4
Posts
1
Votes
Carlif Green
  • Real Estate Agent
  • York, Pa.
1
Votes |
4
Posts
Carlif Green
  • Real Estate Agent
  • York, Pa.
Replied

@Christopher Benedict

How’d it work out for you