Accelerated Mortgage Payment

Accelerated Mortgage Payment

Utica, MI · Member since 2017 · 26 posts · 10 votes

After doing some calculations, I realize it behooves me to pay at an accelerated amount of the mortgage up front.

Obviously, as mortgages go, the lender has you paying mostly interest up front and principle years down the road. With a loan for ~$39,000 we are paying ~$170 more than what the bank is asking, to accelerate the loan pay down and minimize the interest needed to be paid. The rental's cashflow allows for this and as I am still happily working my dayjob, I can afford to 'play the long game' and defer cashflow into my personal bank account until years down the road.

My question for all you wise and experienced investors (and vendors) out there:

Would it be profitable to refinance under new 15 year mortgage? Given the already accelerated payments, and the current interest rate of 5.25%, I am wondering if I should just refinance and make the same monthly payment but with less of that payment being interest. Would a bank want to take their time to do this with such a low loan amount?

Thanks :)

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Real Estate Professional · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2012 · 23k+ posts · 13k+ votes
7y

@Ragnar Lothbrok You don’t need to refi....just make whatever the payment would be for your current balance, st your current rate....and magically, your loan will be paid off in, wait for it......Exactly 15 years. 

And yes....your Yield is exactly whatever your interest rate, plus whatever peace of mind/security it gives you. 

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  • Chris MasonPro Member
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    Lender · CA · Member since 2015 · 9k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    7y

    At the end of the day if you make a giant spreadsheet and spend 5 hours mucking about with it, your conclusion will be that making extra payments on your mortgage will have an ROI exactly equal to your interest rate. Interest is the inverse of return, so of course this is what we would expect (your interest is someone else's profit, at the same rate).

  • Rental Property Investor · TN · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y

    Refi's cost money to do.  It is not likely that you will recoop this cost for a loan that is so low with lower interest for a shorter term loan vs. just adding extra principle to the payment each month.

    Earlier in my life I paid my mortgage and used an amortization sheet.  My goal was to turn any extra cash at the end of each month to as many extra principle payments as I could.  It was always fun to pay off several years payments in one month!  It does get much harder for the last 5 years of the amortization schedule!

  • Theresa HarrisPro Member
    Member since 2019 · 15k+ posts · 11k+ votes
    7y

    Refinancing will cost money, so if the new interest rate is comparable to what you have now, do the accelerated payments PLUS if you wan to go back to regular payments at any time, you have the flexibility to do so with the current mortgage.

  • Real Estate Professional · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2012 · 23k+ posts · 13k+ votes
    7y

    @Ragnar Lothbrok You don’t need to refi....just make whatever the payment would be for your current balance, st your current rate....and magically, your loan will be paid off in, wait for it......Exactly 15 years. 

    And yes....your Yield is exactly whatever your interest rate, plus whatever peace of mind/security it gives you. 

  • Utica, MI · Member since 2017 · 26 posts · 10 votes
    7y

    @Wayne Brooks you don't seem to understand, 15 year mortgages magically have a lower interest rate than 30 year mortgages. That means two payments for the exact amount would pay down more principle in a 15 year mortgage than it would for a 30 year mortgage. I would encourage you to read the original post, some of the other comments, and wait for it... do your research to become better informed.

  • Rental Property Investor · Upstate, NY · Member since 2012 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    7y

    I spent years paying down mortgage principal(s) by that allowed each year as we were crazy enough to buy properties with 18% interest rates. Then as interest rates subsided a re-fi was the next ongoing strategy but as rents increased I still dumped the allowed % amount down each year. Being free & clear has no second.

  • Real Estate Professional · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2012 · 23k+ posts · 13k+ votes
    7y

    @Ragnar Lothbrok We have no idea what your current rate is...my point was that if you make whatever payment your current balance , with your current rate, calculates out to at a 15 year term....if you make that payment it will work out to exactly 15 years, without a refi.  If the new rate is much lower than your current one, then you could do the math to see if a refi makes sense...and yes, it will be tough to get a new loan for $39k, as the associated fees drive up the true costs and most lenders won’t/can’t do a loan that small.

  • Utica, MI · Member since 2017 · 26 posts · 10 votes
    7y

    @Wayne Brooks

    That makes sense, thank you for your input. You're probably right.

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