Paying back a hard money loan question?

Paying back a hard money loan question?

Rental Property Investor · Cherry Hill, NJ · Member since 2017 · 59 posts · 14 votes

Hello All,

I just got off the phone with a private money lender for a potential flip. He offered me 90/100. 90 percent acquisition of the property and 100 percent rehab up to 70 percent of the ARV. The property cost 120K and the rehab cost was going to be 90K. I was going to pay cash for the acquisition and needed to borrow 90K for the rehab. When I asked the potential lender how much it would cost me each month to repay the loan he basically said 1% each month of what I borrowed. 90k x 1% = 900 per month. The plan was to pay my contractor in stages over four phases of the project until it was complete and here is where my question comes up. My lender stated that I would have to pay him each month starting from the first month based on the entire loan amount of 90K. I thought I would only have to pay him each month based on what I have borrowed at that time not the full amount. What am I missing? Also If what he is saying is correct, what If I end up only using 70K instead of 90K for the project? Would I be reimbursed?

Please advise,

Vernell

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Real Estate Investor & Consultant · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2016 · 620 posts · 386 votes
7y

@Vernell D Watson some HMLs based their monthly payment on the total, no matter what is dispersed (usually for newbies), and then offer experienced investors payments that are ONLY on what has been dispersed. 

That is why you should ALWAYS pitch your deal to multiple HMLers for every deal. 

All the best!

sjw

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  • Chris MasonPro Member
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    Lender · CA · Member since 2015 · 9k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Vernell D Watson:

    Hello All,

     My lender stated that I would have to pay him each month starting from the first month based on the entire loan amount of 90K. I thought I would only have to pay him each month based on what I have borrowed at that time not the full amount. What am I missing? Also If what he is saying is correct, what If I end up only using 70K instead of 90K for the project? Would I be reimbursed?

    Please advise,

    Vernell

     Only big institutions like banks and credit unions are set up for revolving lines of credit, which is what it would be if you only paid on the amount actually used. For a private lender, what you describe seems like the only way one would expect it to work to begin with. 

    The full $90k is going to be set aside for you and not available to be lent to others, so from the lender's perspective that is the full amount lent out even if it's not in your checking account until used.

    I would expect that if $20k isn't used, that'll be applied to reducing the balance, and from that point forward you will not pay interest on it.

  • Rental Property Investor · Cherry Hill, NJ · Member since 2017 · 59 posts · 14 votes
    7y
    @Chris Mason thanks Chris for making that clear. Vernell
  • Flipper/Rehabber · Phila, PA · Member since 2018 · 1 post · 1 vote
    7y

    Hi Vernell - any interest in sharing the hard moneys contact info with me? I am in the process of searching for funding in the Philly area. please message me if you don’t mind. Thanks

  • Real Estate Investor & Consultant · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2016 · 620 posts · 386 votes
    7y

    @Vernell D Watson some HMLs based their monthly payment on the total, no matter what is dispersed (usually for newbies), and then offer experienced investors payments that are ONLY on what has been dispersed. 

    That is why you should ALWAYS pitch your deal to multiple HMLers for every deal. 

    All the best!

    sjw

  • Rental Property Investor · Cherry Hill, NJ · Member since 2017 · 59 posts · 14 votes
    7y
    @Adam Marino Ashmore Partners Ask for Peter and tell him Vernell referred you.
  • Rental Property Investor · Cherry Hill, NJ · Member since 2017 · 59 posts · 14 votes
    7y
    @Shawn Ward Thanks Shawn
  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    7y

    there are lenders that only charge on drawn funds.

    Conventus

    Iron Bridge

    Lima one  ( lima has a standby interest that is low ) but basically on drawn funds.

    its gotten competitive for HML.. so the lenders have had to compete with banks

  • Investor · Cherry Hill, NJ · Member since 2016 · 860 posts · 324 votes
    7y
    @Vernell D Watson Hey neighbor I can help you out. Private message me
  • Member since 2018 · 17 posts · 1 vote
    7y
    @Mayer M. Hello. Do you happen to know hard money lenders in the New Jersey area?
  • Member since 2018 · 17 posts · 1 vote
    7y
    @Vernell D Watson hi. Who is your lender if you don’t mind me asking?
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