Got VERY Bad Feedback When Asking About A Potential Borrower

Got VERY Bad Feedback When Asking About A Potential Borrower

Real Estate Broker · Naples, FL · Member since 2013 · 9k+ posts · 6k+ votes

I have a potential borrower asking for a HML. Our good friend and mentor Jay Hinrichs suggested using the 3 C's for underwriting: character of the borrower, capacity to repay the loan, and of course, the collateral.
Here is the scenario: potential borrower has property under contract for 200K. I offered him a loan provided I get 1st lien, etc. I went by his office to scope it out. Nice place. He says he has been there 3 years. Looked very professional. He showed me a few properties he currently owns (on the county property appraisers website). So, all this looks good.......THEN, I started asking around to a few people that have been around a long time. The feedback was pretty negative. One person did tell me they would do the deal (the numbers look safe) but to make sure I dotted the i's, crossed my T's, had 1st lien position, and had an attorney draft everything including a personal guarantee. My issue is: character!  Am I messing up taking on this person. If I strictly follow Jay, then it would be a pass, One note: though I got pretty negative feedback, I don't have any way to validate what was said, and nothing in particular was mentioned other than "be careful", "watch out", etc. 

@Jay Hinrichs what do you say my friend? I do realize this isn't the only guy in town that wants money....but....I was hoping to establish a good relationship with him and do more deals in the future. I already told him, in specific language, that I sever relationships with borrowers that fail to pay on time, etc. 

p.s...this potential borrower has a property under contract for 200K and I told him I would do 65% loan to purchase price. That would put me in at 130K and I don't believe there is ANY way to lose on the collateral if it came down to a foreclosure auction.

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  • Real Estate Professional · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2012 · 23k+ posts · 13k+ votes
    10y

    @John Thedford I'd ask the guys that said "watch out/be careful" to explain further. Is it from personal dealings, or they "heard" from someone second hand, which could be dubious. I know the idea though, there are some GC's I just wouldn't work for as a sub because I know they're going to try Something. I'm sure you know to check for any current judgments, as they would make your Mtg troublesome, even though it's at less than 65% LTV, assuming he's rehabbing out of pocket. And, a last second official records check just prior to closing/recording your mtg, to make sure he doesn't slide another mtg in there.

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    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    10y

    @Wayne Brooks having been in the HML game for years and real estate in general for years you do hear all sorts of things . and I have learned to take gossip with a grain of salt.

    unless there is clear cut evidence I do like to give the benefit of the doubt.

    credit and background check along with a check on the BK federal website usually clears most of this up.

  • Real Estate Broker · Naples, FL · Member since 2013 · 9k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    10y

    Thanks gentlemen. I can certainly ask for the credit...not sure about the background check. I actually feel a little funny about this process even though I require it of tenants and both are putting capitol at risk!

  • Real Estate Broker · Naples, FL · Member since 2013 · 9k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    10y

    @Jay Hinrichs

    I am going forward with this one. I will let you know how it turns out! Talked to a few people that have done business with the man and they said they would do it again! Thanks for the input Jay.

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