W-2 vs 1099

W-2 vs 1099

San Diego, CA · Member since 2016 · 58 posts · 2 votes

I've only in recent months decided to pursue real estate investing and I want to be maximally positioned as a credit-worthy borrower. I'm a physician and for the last 2 years I've worked as an independent contractor because it behooves me financially as I can demand more income and can stow away more money into my self-employment 401k. I make over $200K a year. However I understand that lending institutions typically favor w-2 full-time employment. Do you think that in my case this will make me a less attractive borrower? Do you think I'll still be able to borrow up to the same DTI limits that I would as a w-2 employee? If the above would make me a less attractive borrower, would becoming a full-time employee now right before applying for a mortgage help, or would it only help if that were the case over a couple of years? FYI, I literally can make twice the income as a 1099 than full-time, because many full-time positions limit my moonlighting abilities.

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Patrick LiskaPro Member
Investor · Verona, NJ · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 832 votes
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 I have been self employed for 30 years, no 1099 or W2 for me. some times you have to show more and explain more to the banks in order for them to understand. as self employed there are a lot more deductions you can take on your tax returns, therefor it will not show that you make as much, but yet you are deducting costs that others can't, so you need to show them that some times. also it is good if you go in to the loan officer with copies of recent checks,2 years tax returns, bank statements and even a list that shows your expenses and assets and gives them the total of your net worth. i walked into a meeting with a commercial loan officer at a bank with all that info in hand, without them asking, i gave it right to them at the start of the meeting, 5 min later they were asking me how much i wanted to borrow, they approved me right then and there. so just go prepared with what ever info you can gather.

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  • Andrew SyriosPro Member
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    Residential Real Estate Investor · Kansas City, MO · Member since 2014 · 10k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    10y

    Banks do usually prefer W2's compared to 1099's, but if you're making twice as much as a 1099, I think you're definitely better going that route. It's not like banks are unwilling to lend to those with a 1099 income. I think the best thing to do at this point is to start talking to various banks and trying to get preapproved. If your credit is decent, I have a hard time imagining you'll get turned down too much with that kind of income.

  • Patrick LiskaPro Member
    Investor · Verona, NJ · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 832 votes
    10y

     I have been self employed for 30 years, no 1099 or W2 for me. some times you have to show more and explain more to the banks in order for them to understand. as self employed there are a lot more deductions you can take on your tax returns, therefor it will not show that you make as much, but yet you are deducting costs that others can't, so you need to show them that some times. also it is good if you go in to the loan officer with copies of recent checks,2 years tax returns, bank statements and even a list that shows your expenses and assets and gives them the total of your net worth. i walked into a meeting with a commercial loan officer at a bank with all that info in hand, without them asking, i gave it right to them at the start of the meeting, 5 min later they were asking me how much i wanted to borrow, they approved me right then and there. so just go prepared with what ever info you can gather.

  • Upen PatelPro Member
    Lender · Nationwide Lender · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 814 votes
    10y

    @David F.As long as you have 2 yrs of 1099, steady or going up, you would be able to get confirming loans.

  • Murphy, TX · Member since 2014 · 20 posts · 21 votes
    10y

    You can have W-2 income that qualifies for your solo 401k if you change your form of entity to an LLC that elects to be treated as a corporation, then elects S corporation status (you could also just change to a corporation). This works if you don't have any employees. You could also save some on self-employment taxes. Amanda Han (CPA) touches on this peripherally in the last podcast. Your clients would just contract with your entity for your services, and make payment to your entity. I would suggest you spend a few bucks with Amanda or someone like her and review this option if you think that's something that would work with your clients.

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