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Residential Real Estate Agent · Cookeville, TN · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 948 votes

I've not been on BP for long, but I've already noticed something disturbing. There seems to be a lot of newbies who actually believe that the "Zestimate" on Zillow is useful. Or even worse, that it provides an ARV for a property. Zillow's own data (you can find it yourself if you search their site deeply enough) often indicates that their Zestimates are often 20% or more off-target for a given county. I would say that the online estimates from other websites such as Trulia are equally as suspect, and should not be trusted.

I am also a Realtor and I don't even have words to tell you how much other Realtors and I HATE Zillow. We have to deal with people all the time who say stuff like, "well Zillow says it is worth $xxx,xxx". Then we have to say, "OK, then why in the hell hasn't it sold in 978 days on the market at that price if Zillow is so friggin smart?". Seriously, if you can't learn to do comps on your own, if you have to rely on Zillow, you're not ready to be an investor yet in my humble opinion.

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Real Estate Investor · Bristol, TN · Member since 2010 · 59 posts · 31 votes
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Because so many end buyers respect the zestimate value, I think it does factor in to buyers' decisions regardless of whether or not it is accurate. I look at zillow values when evaluating props. If the zestimate is well below my projected arv, it's a red flag. Perception is reality and, like it or not, zillow seems to be shaping buyer perceptions.

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  • Clarksville, MD · Member since 2012 · 67 posts · 8 votes
    13y

    Bryan, for many investors, Zillow, Trulia and the like offer a quick way to determine the value of properties in a neighborhood that have sold. And also for those presently on the market. It might not be the most up to date data, but it's free and as mentioned above, quick.

    For those of us who aren't realtors and don't have access to MLS, it's the only way--short of bugging the hell out of our realtor friends!

  • Cudahy, WI · Member since 2013 · 16 posts · 0 votes
    13y

    Bryan, thanks for your comments.....so what is the best way to run comps and ARV's if you do not have access to MLS like a relator?

  • Residential Real Estate Agent · Cookeville, TN · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 948 votes
    13y

    @Jim Farrell and @Ahmed Napier - Zillow and other similar sites may have some information on recently sold properties that may be helpful in determining the ARV for a property, but the "Zestimate" is so often wrong that it's pretty much worthless in my opionion.

    Most counties have an on-line database of property transactions, and the sold prices of similar properties in a neighborhood can be found there. If not an on-line site, one could always go to the courthouse. And Ahmed, I really recommend that you spend some time actually looking at houses in your target market. Go to open houses, look at Realtor.com, etc. You will get a feel for prices after a while. But even then, you need to pull comps and do a thorough analysis when it's crunch time.

  • Cudahy, WI · Member since 2013 · 16 posts · 0 votes
    13y

    Thanks again Bryan

  • Matt LavinderPro Member
    Real Estate Investor · Bristol, TN · Member since 2010 · 59 posts · 31 votes
    13y

    Because so many end buyers respect the zestimate value, I think it does factor in to buyers' decisions regardless of whether or not it is accurate. I look at zillow values when evaluating props. If the zestimate is well below my projected arv, it's a red flag. Perception is reality and, like it or not, zillow seems to be shaping buyer perceptions.

  • Orlando, FL · Member since 2012 · 113 posts · 26 votes
    13y
    I agree that the Zestimate is not accurate but Zillow and Trulia is good to find sold properties.
  • Orlando, FL · Member since 2012 · 113 posts · 26 votes
    13y
    Sorry - I hit post before I was done. Recently I bought a house to fix/flip and used the Zillow solds to get ARV. Then my partner ran a check using the MLS access that she has. The MLS results were the same as Zillow's and Trulia's. Again, I would not go with Zestimate but good tool for solds.
  • Residential Real Estate Agent · Cookeville, TN · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 948 votes
    13y

    @Matt Lavinder - Exactly. And we as investors and/or Realtors have to deal with this distorted reality.

    And I also hate it that they post the value for the previous sale. So, when I go to flip a house, some young 20-something will come in and tell me "there's no way your house is worth $xx,xxx cause Zillow says that you only paid $xx,xxx for it". Yes, but do you know that I put $20,000 worth of repairs into it so that you will have a nice home to live in instead of a dump?

  • Investor · La Crescenta, CA · Member since 2013 · 174 posts · 50 votes
    13y

    I LIKE Zillow.

    It has my property Zestimated at $1M more than I have it listed for;-)

  • Real Estate Investor · Columbus, OH · Member since 2013 · 152 posts · 13 votes
    13y

    I agree with the original post. the Z-Estimates are absolutely AWFUL and make it hard to explain to sellers that their property isn't actually worth what the site shows. Eck.

  • Real Estate Investor · Columbus, OH · Member since 2013 · 152 posts · 13 votes
    13y
    Originally posted by Kelly P.:
    Sorry - I hit post before I was done.
    Recently I bought a house to fix/flip and used the Zillow solds to get ARV. Then my partner ran a check using the MLS access that she has. The MLS results were the same as Zillow's and Trulia's.

    Again, I would not go with Zestimate but good tool for solds.

    Ive been told that the solds are good. Ive been using a site called Property Shark for them. Its also free, but it structures them alot better and easier to read.

  • Investor · Mission Viejo, CA · Member since 2012 · 627 posts · 204 votes
    13y

    We ignore the value estimates, but the recent sales data is useful. The schools data is useful. Sometimes the photos are useful. Sometimes the property history data is useful.

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