Out of town/state/country investing - how?

Out of town/state/country investing - how?

Grosse Pointe, MI · Member since 2017 · 17 posts · 5 votes

I am not looking to do this... yet.  But I see a lot of posts about investing out of state and even internationally (which prompted this post).  

Example: There's a SFR for sale in Fargo, ND that needs TLC. A wholesaler, for example, posts it on BP forums. Requests for info flood in from different states or even countries. Someone from out of the area with zero knowledge of Fargo happen to close the deal on that home.

Now what?  What is the actual process of what you do on these situations where you may or may not have much information on what the specific market or micro-market is like?  Do you start with google to try to find a property manager and contractor to go look at it and estimate repairs?  I am sure its much easier to begin with connections but I'm assuming not everyone is connected to each of their purchases.  

How do you take care of inspection, financing, property management, etc without connections where you just closed on a deal?  

I have heard the suggestion of knowing your market down to street level to know the good deals.  I can't imagine the multi-property investors do this when I hear them talk about getting an email with a deal, taking 30 seconds to plug in the numbers and making an offer over the phone for a property 5 states away.  Learn me!

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Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2016 · 577 posts · 240 votes
9y

Gary.

I do this full time and invest in multiple cities. Its all about the team that you build on the ground and having a team that can manage every step of the process. If you are doing rehab buy and hold projects then you'll need realtor, contractor, PM, inspectors, etc. I have build these teams in many cities across the usa. I'd love to connect with you and share how I have done so. I'd love to see you do the same. 

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  • Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2016 · 577 posts · 240 votes
    9y

    Gary.

    I do this full time and invest in multiple cities. Its all about the team that you build on the ground and having a team that can manage every step of the process. If you are doing rehab buy and hold projects then you'll need realtor, contractor, PM, inspectors, etc. I have build these teams in many cities across the usa. I'd love to connect with you and share how I have done so. I'd love to see you do the same. 

  • Investor · Great Neck, NY · Member since 2016 · 679 posts · 467 votes
    9y

    @Gary Newbold

    I agree with @Antoine Martel, it's about having a good team in place in the area you are investing in.  This takes time and should be studied before you actually go off on your own.  My advice to you is have someone mentor you in this type of real estate investing before ultimately taking the plunge.

  • Investor · Princeton, TX · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y

    @Gary Newbold   You have the process reversed.  You should have a team in place before you pick a property.  In fact, the property management team should give you their thoughts about any property you are considering.

    You can also deals with local partners.

    I would stay away from any "turnkey" company. (Let the hate mail start.)

  • Grosse Pointe, MI · Member since 2017 · 17 posts · 5 votes
    9y

    Thanks guys.

    @Account Closed

    @Account Closed I don't see any hate mail yet but is that because of the (typically) reduced returns when dealing with a turnkey?

  • Investor · Atlanta, George · Member since 2015 · 25 posts · 8 votes
    9y
    Greetings Antoine Martel I'm in the same dilemma. I live in New York metro and is almost impossible to to invest here due to the high cost of properties and tight ROI. I'm looking to make my first move out of town but have no idea how to go about it. I constantly find deals that are interesting but then what? I could definitely use some advice if you can find the the time. Cheers.
  • Real Estate Broker · Redwood City, CA · Member since 2014 · 679 posts · 888 votes
    9y
    Gary Newbold OOS investing is much more difficult than local investing, IMO. Local REI is also more profitable for most people. It is kind of strange that BP is flooded with OOS advertisement, which misguide new investors to make wrong choices. A lot of TK providers are on BP, trying to lure people into those poor investment choices.
  • Oakland, CA · Member since 2017 · 3 posts · 1 vote
    9y

    I am new to real estate investing and i understand the risk with OOS investing. However, I live in the bay area and the prices here are RIDICULOUS lol. It is very difficult to find a deal here especially when inventory is at all time low.

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