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Kevin Meyer
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My first multi-family..can someone with more experience evaluate?

Kevin Meyer
  • Real Estate Agent
  • San Diego
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Hello I am getting into real estate investing. I am looking to use my VA loan on a "duplex" in Hawthorne, CA (near Space-x). Asking $895k, and I planned on offering $850k. The "duplex" is 3 bed 2 bath, but the master bedrooms to both units are walled off creating two 2 bed 1 bath units and two 1 bed 1 bath units (no kitchen in these. essentially a hotel room). There is room in the backyard to add an 600sqft ADU (which I plan to do and get permitted by the city). As the property stands now, the 3 car garage was converted into an illegal 1 bed 1 bath ADU (not permitted by the city).

Using the VA loan would allow me to put no money down (no PMI and at an 850K purchase price at 2.75% interest rate). I estimate the mortgage to be around $4400-$4500. Currently, all the rent money would be enough to cover the mortgage, however not covering all the costs like water, gas etc. I have about $130k in a brokerage account that I can use towards building the permitted ADU in the back, but this would essentially drain all my cash reserves.

Tenants come in place. They pay on time and have been there for years despite being on month to month lease terms. Breakdown of their rent is as follows: 2b1b-$1350; 2b1b-$1275; 1b1b-$600; 1b1b-$500; 1b1b garage unit-$950. Total rent collected is $4675. Expenses are water-$150, Sewer-$300, Gas-$40, Trash-$92. Total expense is $582.

After adding the ADU and making it a legal triplex, I would eventually want to turn the garage back into a 3 car garage, so I don't get in trouble with the city. The triplex in the area are going for between $950k-$1.2M.

I'm looking for advice from a seasoned and experienced REI. Does this seem like a good value add deal and house hack? Or is there too much risk involved? Thanks in advance.

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Caroline Gerardo
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Caroline Gerardo
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The VA loan is restrictive on health and safety codes. Sounds like they rigged rooms without legal permits. After you pay for you appraisal it will note that all the "rooms" are removed and put back to single family meeting codes. You cannot close until the house is inspected and returned to a nice safe single family house. The Seller's agent will tell seller not to take your offer if it says VA because they should know that's a tangle and a long escrow that will cost the seller thousands of dollars. The seller is not going to accept a lower offer than what they list it unless it's all cash. The VA will also require that the seller notify the tenants they must be out as you are going to owner occupy (VA will require this) and seller has to remodel to get it to code. Here is my suggestion: If you love this location and intend to occupy for 10 years make the offer with notes that seller has to bring subject to code and remove tenants, you will need to sweeten the price for them to do this. Will it appraise??? The ADU is a great idea for extra income. There are many companies in Southern California who can deliver a kit one for $80000. and you pay for permits and hook to existing utilities.

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