Skip to content
×
Try PRO Free Today!
BiggerPockets Pro offers you a comprehensive suite of tools and resources
Market and Deal Finder Tools
Deal Analysis Calculators
Property Management Software
Exclusive discounts to Home Depot, RentRedi, and more
$0
7 days free
$828/yr or $69/mo when billed monthly.
$390/yr or $32.5/mo when billed annually.
7 days free. Cancel anytime.
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here

Join Over 3 Million Real Estate Investors

Create a free BiggerPockets account to comment, participate, and connect with over 3 million real estate investors.
Use your real name
By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.
The community here is like my own little personal real estate army that I can depend upon to help me through ANY problems I come across.
Multi-Family and Apartment Investing
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

Updated 9 months ago on . Most recent reply

User Stats

5,014
Posts
4,381
Votes
Bruce Lynn#2 Real Estate Agent Contributor
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Coppell, TX
4,381
Votes |
5,014
Posts

AP at larger properties

Bruce Lynn#2 Real Estate Agent Contributor
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Coppell, TX
Posted

Is it pretty common for larger mutlifamily to have big AP?   Is that just part of the AM/PM strategy?

I'm hearing more about AP on takeovers that the new ownership did not seem to have knowledge of, and high AP at existing properties that have cash flow issues.   I'm kind of surprised that vendors will keep providing services if their bills aren't being paid?   Does the PM/AM just keep switching vendors to see what they can get away with as times get tough and vendors cut off services?   Seems like word would get out, but maybe there are enough smaller vendors looking for work that they're willing to take a chance.

I remember back in the day there were issues with banks/lenders wanting us to take on AP for them with all the property preservations.  Utilities, lawn mowing, locksmith, etc.  They were notorious for not paying.  I'd end up putting it on the closing statement and not budge off of that.  They'd get so mad, that it made me think there was a strategy to get us to eat the costs.

Most Popular Reply

User Stats

3,928
Posts
5,644
Votes
Greg Scott
#3 General Real Estate Investing Contributor
  • Rental Property Investor
  • SE Michigan
5,644
Votes |
3,928
Posts
Greg Scott
#3 General Real Estate Investing Contributor
  • Rental Property Investor
  • SE Michigan
Replied

After closing on our first big apartment complex, we found out that the prior owner had not been paying any of their vendors.  They were a very unethical group.  They had been burning through vendors.  One of our biggest challenges in the first few months was to get vendors to come out to work on the property.  We had to go meet many vendors in person to show we were not that company from New Jersey that stiffed them.

We don't operate that way.  We always pay our bills on time. 

At that same property, we now have great relationships with our vendors.  They help us out in many ways, often just as a favor.  They have gotten so comfortable with us that sometimes we have to ask them to please bill us for stuff they should have invoiced weeks or months ago.

  • Greg Scott
  • Loading replies...