Do I have people who likes Multifamily Investments?

Do I have people who likes Multifamily Investments?

Specialist · Port Richey · Member since 2019 · 54 posts · 12 votes

Is anybody here looking forward to partner up in a Multifamily investment?

Great returns

Great asset

Long-term

Endless Returns

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Real Estate Broker · Memphis, TN · Member since 2020 · 202 posts · 203 votes
3y

Sounds great just give me your bank info and I'll send a wire. 

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  • Real Estate Broker · Memphis, TN · Member since 2020 · 202 posts · 203 votes
    3y

    Sounds great just give me your bank info and I'll send a wire. 

  • Specialist · Port Richey · Member since 2019 · 54 posts · 12 votes
    3y

    @Reed Rickenbach haha brother! Send me a Dm, I actually have something for you to personally look at

  • Dallas, TX · Member since 2014 · 517 posts · 106 votes
    3y

    @Anaim Murcia where are you investing? Port Richie, FL?

  • Developer · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 904 votes
    3y

    @Anaim Murcia you may want to move this to the Marketplace instead of posting it here.

  • Investor · Washington, DC · Member since 2018 · 93 posts · 54 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Percy N.:

    @Anaim Murcia you may want to move this to the Marketplace instead of posting it here.

    But he has endless returns. Don't you want some of that.
  • Wholesaler · usa · Member since 2021 · 221 posts · 67 votes
    3y

    @Anaim Murcia You will receive better responses from investors using defined offerings by using metrics that investors can relate to. IRR, COC, etc All the best Anaim.

  • Developer · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 904 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Derick Bonsu:
    Quote from @Percy N.:

    @Anaim Murcia you may want to move this to the Marketplace instead of posting it here.

    But he has endless returns. Don't you want some of that.

     Only if it comes with zero risk ;-)

  • Specialist · Port Richey · Member since 2019 · 54 posts · 12 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Rhondalette W.:

    @Anaim Murcia where are you investing? Port Richie, FL?


     No, Not just florida. 

  • Specialist · Port Richey · Member since 2019 · 54 posts · 12 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Percy N.:

    @Anaim Murcia you may want to move this to the Marketplace instead of posting it here.

    Will do!

    thanks 

  • Specialist · Port Richey · Member since 2019 · 54 posts · 12 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Percy N.:
    Quote from @Derick Bonsu:
    Quote from @Percy N.:

    @Anaim Murcia you may want to move this to the Marketplace instead of posting it here.

    But he has endless returns. Don't you want some of that.

     Only if it comes with zero risk ;-)

    I love that. 
  • Specialist · Port Richey · Member since 2019 · 54 posts · 12 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Jason Thompson:

    @Anaim Murcia You will receive better responses from investors using defined offerings by using metrics that investors can relate to. IRR, COC, etc All the best Anaim.

    Thanks Jason!

  • Specialist · Port Richey · Member since 2019 · 54 posts · 12 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Derick Bonsu:
    Quote from @Percy N.:

    @Anaim Murcia you may want to move this to the Marketplace instead of posting it here.

    But he has endless returns. Don't you want some of that.

     When an investor gets their Money Returned  and possibly 2.7x on their money. But still owns the assets and still makes cash flow... 

    how should I properly call that? 

  • Rental Property Investor · Member since 2018 · 826 posts · 810 votes
    3y

    @Anaim Murcia we call that too good to be true. You’ve probably noticed a fair amount of sarcasm in the responses thus far, and it’s because your offering doesn’t sound credible. If this is indeed a legit opportunity, you should provide more information in a balanced manner.

  • Specialist · Port Richey · Member since 2019 · 54 posts · 12 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Allan C.:

    @Anaim Murcia we call that too good to be true. You’ve probably noticed a fair amount of sarcasm in the responses thus far, and it’s because your offering doesn’t sound credible. If this is indeed a legit opportunity, you should provide more information in a balanced manner.


    Brother I Appreciate your Feedback, and to be honest I'm okay with sarcasm because its actually pretty normal when the person does not know about a topic. Its a mind block and it just means a person is not ready to hear about different investments opportunities that actually exist, in this case (Large Multifamily) 

    Look at it this way;

    Most of people are saying "no" without even actually asking me "how is this possible, can I get more details, Can I see the property you are talking about". 

    And it's 100% okay. Because eventually, those who invest, will have more opportunities offered to them. 

    As a matter of fact, many other companies are doing different sorts of syndication. But once again brother, I appreciate your feedback. God bless your heart.

  • Specialist · Port Richey · Member since 2019 · 54 posts · 12 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Anaim Murcia:
    Quote from @Allan C.:

    @Anaim Murcia we call that too good to be true. You’ve probably noticed a fair amount of sarcasm in the responses thus far, and it’s because your offering doesn’t sound credible. If this is indeed a legit opportunity, you should provide more information in a balanced manner.


    Brother I Appreciate your Feedback, and to be honest I'm okay with sarcasm because its actually pretty normal when the person does not know about a topic. Its a mind block and it just means a person is not ready to hear about different investments opportunities that actually exist, in this case (Large Multifamily) 

    Look at it this way;

    Most of people are saying "no" without even actually asking me "how is this possible, can I get more details, Can I see the property you are talking about". 

    And it's 100% okay. Because eventually, those who invest, will have more opportunities offered to them. 

    As a matter of fact, many other companies are doing different sorts of syndication. But once again brother, I appreciate your feedback. God bless your heart.

    By the way, Endless return is just a definition of when you are no longer invested in a deal because you got your investment back and you still produce passive income for x amount of years... 
    Thats infinite, you cant calculate that. 
  • Real Estate Coach · Los Angeles · Member since 2023 · 171 posts · 21 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Anaim Murcia:

    Is anybody here looking forward to partner up in a Multifamily investment?

    Great returns

    Great asset

    Long-term

    Endless Returns


     DM me. Thanks

  • J ScottPro Member
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    Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2008 · 17k+ posts · 17k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Anaim Murcia:
    By the way, Endless return is just a definition of when you are no longer invested in a deal because you got your investment back and you still produce passive income for x amount of years... 
    Thats infinite, you cant calculate that. 

    Incorrect. You certainly can calculate it.

    Getting back more money than what you put in is not an infinite return.  It's called a positive return.  And it happens with most investments.  And there are plenty of metrics you can use to calculate it.

    It's only an infinite return when looked at from one very specific calculation (CoC in the years following the payback). Which isn't a useful metric in the first place.

    If you don't understand these basics concepts, you're probably not yet ready to be pitching deals to investors.

  • Real Estate Consultant · Cleveland · Member since 2020 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Anaim Murcia:

    Is anybody here looking forward to partner up in a Multifamily investment?

    Great returns

    Great asset

    Long-term

    Endless Returns

     Here's an idea, POST THE NUMBERS and location.  This looks like a FB post, that is the LAST thing everyone here wants to see . Looks like you are trying to " build a list " 

    Good luck 

  • Real Estate Consultant · Cleveland · Member since 2020 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Anaim Murcia:
    Quote from @Allan C.:

    @Anaim Murcia we call that too good to be true. You’ve probably noticed a fair amount of sarcasm in the responses thus far, and it’s because your offering doesn’t sound credible. If this is indeed a legit opportunity, you should provide more information in a balanced manner.


    Brother I Appreciate your Feedback, and to be honest I'm okay with sarcasm because its actually pretty normal when the person does not know about a topic. Its a mind block and it just means a person is not ready to hear about different investments opportunities that actually exist, in this case (Large Multifamily) 

    Look at it this way;

    Most of people are saying "no" without even actually asking me "how is this possible, can I get more details, Can I see the property you are talking about". 

    And it's 100% okay. Because eventually, those who invest, will have more opportunities offered to them. 

    As a matter of fact, many other companies are doing different sorts of syndication. But once again brother, I appreciate your feedback. God bless your heart.


     STOP PITCHING, and show the numbers, again this is NOT FB, 

    Good luck 

  • Specialist · Port Richey · Member since 2019 · 54 posts · 12 votes
    3y
    Quote from @J Scott:
    Quote from @Anaim Murcia:
    By the way, Endless return is just a definition of when you are no longer invested in a deal because you got your investment back and you still produce passive income for x amount of years... 
    Thats infinite, you cant calculate that. 

    Incorrect. You certainly can calculate it.

    Getting back more money than what you put in is not an infinite return.  It's called a positive return.  And it happens with most investments.  And there are plenty of metrics you can use to calculate it.

    It's only an infinite return when looked at from one very specific calculation (CoC in the years following the payback). Which isn't a useful metric in the first place.

    If you don't understand these basics concepts, you're probably not yet ready to be pitching deals to investors.


     Thanks Scott, thats a very valid point. 

    and I like the comment towards the end. 

    However, Im not talking about a higher than Expected ROI.

    im talking about cashflowing even after getting the investment back. When you are no longer INVESTED on a deal as a limited partner you are not just getting a "calculated higher than expected return" 

    -Due to a refi after the property increases in value due to the bussines plan (100 units +)

    its literally cashflow until end life of the deal. The end of the deal could be in 10-15-20 years. 

    How would you calculate that if there may be no end period 

    you probably already know this, but every structure is different based on the group. 

    Thanks for taking the time for sharing.

  • Specialist · Port Richey · Member since 2019 · 54 posts · 12 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Bob S.:
    Quote from @Anaim Murcia:

    Is anybody here looking forward to partner up in a Multifamily investment?

    Great returns

    Great asset

    Long-term

    Endless Returns

     Here's an idea, POST THE NUMBERS and location.  This looks like a FB post, that is the LAST thing everyone here wants to see . Looks like you are trying to " build a list " 

    Good luck 


     Thanks brother, but this is no pitch. It was a comment to see who could be interested, but a lot of people got offended by it. Lol 

    If you'd like we could get on a zoom call. 

    I'd be more than happy to share with you. 

  • J ScottPro Member
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    Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2008 · 17k+ posts · 17k+ votes
    3y

    Good question...  And here's the answer...

    First, there is always an end. You even said so yourself: 10-15-20 years.

    But even without an end, there's a metric called Internal Rate of Return (IRR) that can tell you the estimated compounded rate of return over the life of the deal, even if the deal goes on forever.

    This is because there's something called Time Value of Money, where money earned later is worth less.  Money earned 15, 20 or 100 years in the future is great, but factors much less (and eventually not at all) on the returns than money earned in the short term.  

    And here's a cool little secret for you...  You talk about getting your principal back sooner and future money being "infinite profits," but from a math standpoint, that's irrelevant.

    Here's an example:

    Let's say you put $100,000 into a deal, and after 2 years you get $100,000 back. Then you get $10,000 a year for the next 10 years.

    Overall, you invested $100,000 and you get $200,000 back.  Does it matter if the first $100,000 that you got back after 2 years was the return your original investment or whether the $100,000 you got back over the next 10 years was the return of your original investment?

    It doesn't matter. Saying you're getting your original investment back first results in the exact same mathematical returns as saying you're getting your profits first and your investment back later.

    In the example above, all that matters is that you received $100,000 after 2 years and $10,000 a year after that. Doesn't matter which was the profit and which was the return on capital. The return metrics are all the same.

    If you want to better understanding of any of that, check out the latest book I published with BiggerPockets.  It digs into all of this and a whole lot more...

    https://store.biggerpockets.co...

  • Real Estate Consultant · Cleveland · Member since 2020 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Anaim Murcia:
    Quote from @Bob S.:
    Quote from @Anaim Murcia:

    Is anybody here looking forward to partner up in a Multifamily investment?

    Great returns

    Great asset

    Long-term

    Endless Returns

     Here's an idea, POST THE NUMBERS and location.  This looks like a FB post, that is the LAST thing everyone here wants to see . Looks like you are trying to " build a list " 

    Good luck 


     Thanks brother, but this is no pitch. It was a comment to see who could be interested, but a lot of people got offended by it. Lol 

    If you'd like we could get on a zoom call. 

    I'd be more than happy to share with you. 

    AGAIN, all you are doing is pitching, JUST post the numbers. Why would anyone/ I waste time on a ZOOM when they do not even know the numbers or the location?? IF the deal makes sense, you will get better replies, Then and only then will you get people to go on a zoom. But then again why would one even need a zoom call ? AGAIN, this reads EXACTLY like a FB post. 

  • Specialist · Port Richey · Member since 2019 · 54 posts · 12 votes
    3y
    Quote from @J Scott:

    Good question...  And here's the answer...

    First, there is always an end. You even said so yourself: 10-15-20 years.

    But even without an end, there's a metric called Internal Rate of Return (IRR) that can tell you the estimated compounded rate of return over the life of the deal, even if the deal goes on forever.

    This is because there's something called Time Value of Money, where money earned later is worth less.  Money earned 15, 20 or 100 years in the future is great, but factors much less (and eventually not at all) on the returns than money earned in the short term.  

    And here's a cool little secret for you...  You talk about getting your principal back sooner and future money being "infinite profits," but from a math standpoint, that's irrelevant.

    Here's an example:

    Let's say you put $100,000 into a deal, and after 2 years you get $100,000 back. Then you get $10,000 a year for the next 10 years.

    Overall, you invested $100,000 and you get $200,000 back.  Does it matter if the first $100,000 that you got back after 2 years was the return your original investment or whether the $100,000 you got back over the next 10 years was the return of your original investment?

    It doesn't matter. Saying you're getting your original investment back first results in the exact same mathematical returns as saying you're getting your profits first and your investment back later.

    In the example above, all that matters is that you received $100,000 after 2 years and $10,000 a year after that. Doesn't matter which was the profit and which was the return on capital. The return metrics are all the same.

    If you want to better understanding of any of that, check out the latest book I published with BiggerPockets.  It digs into all of this and a whole lot more...

    https://store.biggerpockets.co...


     Scott,  I love it and I will definitely read the book. I appreciate you sharing the knowledge it literally POWERFULL.

    here's the proforma on the deal I am working on.

    100,000 example. 

    1.target investor CoC year one . 6.25% (starting)

    2.target Investor Equity Multiple. 2.7x 

    3.target Investor ARR 26%

    4.Refinance Year 6 (return all capital plus) 

    5.80/20 split till the life time of the deal. 

    6. Hold time 10 years+. 

  • Lender · Seattle, WA · Member since 2022 · 482 posts · 768 votes
    3y
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