Considering foreclosure auction for investment purposes~need help with timing and financing questions

Considering foreclosure auction for investment purposes~need help with timing and financing questions

Cathy MoorePro Member
Denver, CO · Member since 2012 · 12 posts · 2 votes

As someone new to REI, I've been quite frustrated with the market here in Denver for those properties that have hit MLS. Everything is a multiple offer situation, I've lost 2 deals so far and the one I actually got accepted fell through. Inventory is so tight right now that I've considered looking into foreclosure opportunities. I've read up a lot on the information from the public trustee website and somewhat understand the process, but I'm confused on a couple of things.

First, it looks like a ton of properties get scheduled for auction on a certain date then only 10% or less of those actually get auctioned off that date. I'm guessing the attorney delays things as they're working things out with the owner but is there any sort of final deadline they have to go to auction here? I want to keep my eye on a few properties so I know when they're going to auction. Should I call the attorney office handling the process for the bank?

Second, I realize this is a cash only method and you have to bring at least the opening amount to the auction which can be a lot of $$$$. What do people do for this who don't have that much cash sitting in the bank? I would assume private lenders or hard money, but I don't see how that's possible when you only have 2 days before you know what properties are going to auction. Is this really just a space people with a ton of cash can invest in?

Thanks for any help you can provide!!!

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  • Flipper/Rehabber · Newport Beach, CA · Member since 2008 · 45 posts · 9 votes
    13y

    Hi Cathy,

    I have invested at the Trustee sale in California. I don't know if it works the same in CO, but you do need to have cashiers checks available for the full purchase price at the time of the winning bid. I know in Arizona you can put a deposit and then arrange for hard money by the following day. In my area there was a hard money lender that was specializing in auction purchases and they were willing to research title on the property before the sale and provide a loan at the auction, they were really expensive though...around 5 points and 15%.

    I don't think you will get anywhere by calling the attorney's office or Trustee to find out any information. They will not provide any info other than what is public record such as opening bid or postponement and for what reason such as BK or mutual agreement.

    I have followed properties that had been scheduled and get postponed every month for a year. There are so many delay tactics that homeowners are using the sales most often get delayed. Some do go to sale each day, it is just a lot of research to do for about 10% of the properties that will actually go to sale that day.

    Let me know if you have any other questions.

    Good luck!

  • Real Estate Investor · Audubon, PA · Member since 2009 · 13k+ posts · 8k+ votes
    13y
  • Rental Property Investor · Mercer Island, WA · Member since 2008 · 22k+ posts · 14k+ votes
    13y

    Cathy Moore, yes, it is cash on the barrelhead here in CO. In some counties, they expect you to hand over the money as soon as the sale of a particular house is done. If you cannot, they continue the bidding. In others, you go to the back of the room to pay and the move onto the next house. In still others, you have until that afternoon to pay. Usual practice is to bring cashier's checks in various denominations. The trustee will refund the overage, though not right away.

    If you're getting a loan, the lender needs to be there next to you with the checks. Tough to manage.

    The 10% number sounds low, based on the ones I've looked at. But I've not really counted. Basically, you're going to have to get the list from Monday or Tuesday after its published and do a high speed evaluation of your prospects. You have to have multiple prospects because of the withdrawals and continuations. AFAIK, there is no final deadline. And things can get worked out and the foreclosure completely withdrawn.

  • Cathy MoorePro Member
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    Denver, CO · Member since 2012 · 12 posts · 2 votes
    13y

    Thanks everyone! So sounds like I'm pretty much SOL unless I have a lot of cash on hand and tons of time to do research 2 days prior for a home that still might not be auctioned off...think i'll try to find another strategy : )

  • Rental Property Investor · Mercer Island, WA · Member since 2008 · 22k+ posts · 14k+ votes
    13y

    Its a tough strategy without cash in hand.

    Last house I bought here was 2009. I probably looked at 100 houses. Made 20 offers, bought 1. From what I'm hearing, its even worse now. Even though I'd prefer to invest locally, I'm considering going out of the area.

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