Need Advice on Switching Gears for Awhile

Need Advice on Switching Gears for Awhile

Investor · Phoenix, AZ · Member since 2014 · 230 posts · 122 votes

Hubby and I (both in our mid-60s and retired) have been in the buy-and-hold RE biz for 2 1/2 years. In that time, we've amassed a home and a condo (both with mortgages), another home (held by an IRA), and soon will buy my sister's interest out of 3 mobile homes with land, left to us after our brother died. We also own our personal residence free and clear and have no interest in adding a mortgage. We've never taken anything out of the company's account to pay ourselves, although we've used it on a couple of occasions for educational purposes. We need to have a decent cushion, considering the worth of our SoCal properties.

Due to unforeseen family expenses and what's gone on in the stock market, we need to spend as little as possible (maybe up to $15k) for the time being while still being able to grow the company. I'm admittedly fairly risk-adverse in the first place, and between our ages and personal circumstances, what to do next is a challenge. We don't want to leverage--or take the chance of losing--any of our holdings. The home holding the mortgage either may end up being a future residence or may be leveraged to buy one a few years down the road. I doubt we could afford to buy back into the market, so that's off-limits. The estimated value of the condo has jumped at least $60k in 2 1/2 years (it's in OC), so we don't want to touch that. We just bought the IRA home in early fall and really can't touch it because we're not old enough. It's on a man-made lake, and the value's risen at least $20k since then. The mobiles aren't worth much, and we don't want to tap much into any other funds.

Hubby's studying notes, so that's a possibility. However, I like good, solid, SFR purchases in nice areas. All of our properties have rented quickly and have long-term residents.

We've got to be honest about what's do-able for us at this age under these circumstances.  We need recommendations from people with much more knowledge and experience than we have.  One of our mentors recently took on a subject-to and gave the guy a couple of thousand dollars to walk away, but he ended up spending $20k or so to rehab the home and get it rented.  Spending that kind of money won't work for us right now.  (Ah, how I miss the days of writing checks with six figures...)  

Looking forward to hearing some advice.  Thanks.

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  • Investor/Landlord · Farmington Hills, MI · Member since 2011 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10y

    You don't say why you need to grow the company. Since you are both older than 59 1/2 years of age you may distribute funds from your IRA without any penalties. If they are regular IRAs you will pay taxes on those funds. If they are Roth IRAs no taxes will be owed. You may not want to but it is certainly an option.

  • Investor · Phoenix, AZ · Member since 2014 · 230 posts · 122 votes
    10y

    We obviously can touch our IRA money now; we just don't want to pay taxes yet for a few more years.

    We want to grow the company to generate more income.  Unlike what's coming in now, we'd need to pay ourselves.  The situation should be temporary and resolve itself within the next 12-18 months.  That's too long to be in a holding pattern.  I'd like to add 1-2 properties/year.  

  • Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2013 · 64 posts · 25 votes
    10y

    Goals.

    Are you looking to grow the equity or cash flow?

    Advice, in the paragraphs you gave, is hard to come by. Great financial planning really is based on knowing the people and their goals, and having no bias from the advice giver.

    From the sound of the post you are looking to not touch any assets/equity, yet continue to expand?

    I grew up in OC and San Diego and know that those area are a great equity build up. 

    Personally I just re-balanced some of my properties and moved some equity into a cash flow property so that I had more monthly cash flow cushion.

    I know Karen Margrave is in the 949 and has more experience and would be a great resource regarding property in the area.

    As Jeff mentioned, taxes.  There are a ton of things that could go into the planning and direction process.

    Side Note.

    Good book 'Killing Sacred cows.' by  Garret Gunderson.

    And age.  My Grandma just turned 91 and There was a lady in San Diego that ran a Marathon at 91 I think.  So you have a good amount of time to invest, and spend. :D

    Hope that the family situations/emergencies all work out for the best.

  • Investor · Phoenix, AZ · Member since 2014 · 230 posts · 122 votes
    10y

    First of all, thanks for your good wishes.  

    We're looking for cash flow.  Want to avoid drawing off of everything we've got for as long as we can, but it would be great if we could get another revenue source within the next 3 months.  We were nothing less than side-swiped by what's been happening (and having to take a tremendous financial hit), but it's been unavoidable.  We've got our fingers crossed and praying this will be resolved within 18 months.  Now we're trying to "stop the bleeding"; then, we'll have to make up a lot of lost ground.

    In the meantime, we've both got chronic health conditions, so it's not just our ages.  We've got to think smart.  Our homes/condo rented quickly (twice before the sellers or departing renters even moved out) because they're so nice.  We bought into SoCal (condo in OC; home in North County SD) in '13, but we should've gone in a year earlier.  Laguna's our second home, so we would like to end up in that general location.  Our mobiles are in a rural area of NorCal.

    Not interested in wholesaling for a variety of reasons. Would like to maintain the same quality of SFR as our present portfolio for the simple reason that we never have to worry about the quality of renter in our properties, but our properties have gone way up in price and rents haven't followed. We had looked at owner-finance deals and subject-tos, but for us to dictate terms under our circumstances would require nothing less than simple, cosmetic changes to the properties and little or no money down. We could partner with fellow REI group investors who have flipped, but with what we want to invest, the margins would be too small. Kills me because I know this is a good time of year to make offers, even obscenely low ones.

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