First-time Homebuyer without a Job

First-time Homebuyer without a Job

Member since 2020 · 4 posts · 1 vote

Hey BiggerPockets Forum,

I'm looking to purchase a first-time home, multi-family ideally, for investment purposes, however I have left my job in January of 2020 am having issues applying for a loan. I have a majority of my assets in stocks and can enough down, 20% for a $1M+ home and still have a majority of assets remaining. I currently live rent free in San Francisco, (family-owned apt) and just started airbnbing my unit as a househack. 

I have no debt, no liabilities and am hoping not to return to the 9-5 work schedule and pivot over to real estate full-time. What are some suggestions on getting into the real estate market, even without steady income? Should I consider getting my real-estate license as an agent just to network and understand the market? I have friends that are interested in buying properties, but what would the implications be if they shoulder the full mortgage burden, even though we'll split the mortgage payments and expenses 50/50?  Ideally, I do not want to go back into the 9-5 work-grind, but I would consider if this is the most sensible option to get into real estate based on my situation. 

I would consider purchasing both out-of-state or in the bay area. 

I'm hoping to come up with creative ways to enter the real estate market, based on the assets I have currently available. I'm a new member of Biggerpockets and have been listening to the podcasts for the past couple weeks and it's been inspirational. 

Thank you Biggerpockets forum.

-Ray

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Rental Property Investor · San Francisco, CA · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
6y

@Raymond Ng if you can put ~ 40% down try East West Bank (branches all over SF). They do asset based loans (no income check) at really good interest rates. Otherwise it’s hard money, where you will pay a crazy interest rate,  not worth it for buy and holds imo. 

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  • Real Estate Agent · Warrior Run, PA · Member since 2016 · 341 posts · 146 votes
    6y

    sounds like you are in a great position. However due to the fact that you have no income...minus the returns your getting on that $1m + ( so technically I guess you do have an income)

    if I was in your position I would look to buy some cash deals that you can get some equity gains by doing renovations. since you have the capital...you front the cost...rent the building and after you season it for 6-12 months. pull your money out.

    This way you can use the income from the asset to get financing. Then rinse and repeat and you should have no problem getting financing afterward. 

    or maybe an asset based lender

  • Member since 2020 · 4 posts · 1 vote
    6y

    Hey Nick, 

    Thanks for the tip - this is solid advice, and I'll look into going in on properties with cash.

    Thank you!

    Ray

  • Rental Property Investor · San Francisco, CA · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    6y

    @Raymond Ng if you can put ~ 40% down try East West Bank (branches all over SF). They do asset based loans (no income check) at really good interest rates. Otherwise it’s hard money, where you will pay a crazy interest rate,  not worth it for buy and holds imo. 

  • Carmichael, CA · Member since 2017 · 7 posts · 3 votes
    6y

    Hi Ray,

    If only my position looked a little more like yours. I have been saving to invest in RA but now I am off work and have no income, at least I have a savings, I guess. I live in Sacramento and I was just reading that the Sac market is a great place to invest since the whole Bay is moving here. I could help you look for properties or check home out for you. I have nothing but time right now. At least it would help me sharpen my RA tools.

    I am willing to help other out as well. I enjoy looking for properties and running the numbers. 

    Thanks,

    Diana Montieth  

  • Gordon CuffePro Member
    Investor · Roseville, CA · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 583 votes
    6y

    @Raymond Ng Since you live rent free, it seems to be too risky to buy a owner occupied property in San Francisco. You can buy a fixer upper in Sacramento or out of state. If you buy it at the right price, rent it out, you can do a cash out refi with a non traditional lender to get your cash back. The non traditional lender will look at the rents to qualify you for the loan. Now you just need to find an off market property or something on mls that other investors have missed out on. 

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