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Connor Deneen
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  • Washington, DC
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Need advice on a deal

Connor Deneen
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  • Washington, DC
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Happy Labor Day weekend everyone! I have a question regarding a fourplex property that was just put up for sale a few days ago. Before the numbers, here are the basics: I will be using a VA Loan (so zero money down), and will be living in one of the units, (And yes VA does up to 4 units). The property is in California, because that is where I am stationed currently. Long term I want to invest out of California, but I'm going to be here for a while so I'd like to get a property and take advantage of the zero down loan while I'm here, preferably multifamily, but I'm not opposed to Single Family. This property is in pretty good condition, which it would have to be for it to pass the VA inspection. Ok, now for the numbers:

Asking Price: $425,000

Taxes (CA): roughly 5,500/year, less if purchased for less. (458.33/mo)

Current Rents: $825/unit

Vacancy: Less than 5% for last two years, only one turnover

Nearby similar rents: $800-$950

Property Type: Garden Style, single story

Property Class: B

Property Location: B

Insurance: Roughly $150-$200/mo

Managing: I'd be managing myself for at least the first year

I've ran the numbers and including cost of property management(even though the first year or so I'll manage it), and accounting for capex, garbage, maintenance, and all other related costs I know that with the loan being zero down and me living there so as not bringing in one of the four rents I'll technically be negative cashflow, and I know Brandon Turner and David Green would say what the heck are you doing man!? I know.

That being said, I wanted to get all of your perspectives on this, is it worth making an offer to where I'd be living for free, the other tenants' rents would cover PITI as is, and even more so once I raise the rents. I know I'd be paying down the principle and over time I'd start to cashflow even after saving for capex, maintenance, etc.

So what do you think? Yay/nay? What do you think I should offer if at all? Their agent told me he already has a "good" offer on the table, and ever since moving to California all I've heard is that people buy here to break even on cashflow and wait for their return on investment way down the road. But again, this is California, so who knows where things will be down the road. Is it worth it since I'm using next to zero of my own money? Or do I wait and keep looking? Any and all advice is greatly appreciated, thanks!

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