Skip to content
×
Try PRO Free Today!
BiggerPockets Pro offers you a comprehensive suite of tools and resources
Market and Deal Finder Tools
Deal Analysis Calculators
Property Management Software
Exclusive discounts to Home Depot, RentRedi, and more
$0
7 days free
$828/yr or $69/mo when billed monthly.
$390/yr or $32.5/mo when billed annually.
7 days free. Cancel anytime.
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here

Join Over 3 Million Real Estate Investors

Create a free BiggerPockets account to comment, participate, and connect with over 3 million real estate investors.
Use your real name
By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.
The community here is like my own little personal real estate army that I can depend upon to help me through ANY problems I come across.
Starting Out
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

Updated over 5 years ago on . Most recent reply

User Stats

3
Posts
0
Votes
Jeffrey D. Logan
  • Boston, MA
0
Votes |
3
Posts

When is it safe to start "paying yourself" from cash flow?

Jeffrey D. Logan
  • Boston, MA
Posted

Hi all,

First time landlord in the Boston area here. Quick background: wife and I are moving to NH after being in a Somerville condo for 3 years. It has appreciated about $130k since we bought it ($570k to ~$700k). We were able to keep the condo and rent it out and it should cash flow (after mortgage, taxes, HOA and all expenses) around $250 a month. Obviously won't be the greatest cash-on-cash return if i were buying solely for a rental property, but the plan is to try this out for a while while betting that appreciation in Boston market will continue. We'll re-evaluate next year and decide whether to pull out the equity we have and invest in cheaper markets where the cash on cash return would be greater.

Anyways, I've read "The Book on Rental Property Investing" just to give me some background on real estate investing in general and the advice there is to keep 6 months of full expenses in cash reserves. He also outlines later on in the book how to account for big ticket capital expenses from a monthly budgeting perspective. So my question is, when do you consider it safe to start reinvesting the cash flow coming in? If you've already got 6 months of reserves in the bank, does a quarterly distribution of the cash above that make sense (where it could then either be re-invested into something else or saved for another downpayment)? Or should you just keep piling on the reserves for when that big ticket item like a new roof comes in? And how do you guys account for those unrealized, large expenses when analyzing your investment performance where you had budgeted for those expenses but haven't actually realized them yet (e.g. I've been budgeting for a new roof for 3 years but have not actually realized that expense yet and have actually re-invested some of the cash that would have otherwise gone towards that because I have enough in reserves)? 

Thanks and looking forward to being a part of the BiggerPockets community!

JD

Most Popular Reply

User Stats

114
Posts
71
Votes
David Roe
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Dayton Ohio
71
Votes |
114
Posts
David Roe
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Dayton Ohio
Replied

Safe?  Depends on so many factors...  I like the idea of 6 months of opperating reserves if everything fails.   But if the Real Estate Investing is a side hustle for you then keep rolling the cashflow back into your investing so it becomes compounded.  Once you make 80% of your day job income thats a close time that you will break even if you decide to stop your day job and do investing only.   or not work at all.  

Your reserves could be built up for new BRRRRs or flips where you can pay yourself back, Worst case a AC unit goes out and you put it on a cc untill you sell or refi your new investment and pay yourself back.  Key to it is to hold yourself accountable.  

Another variance is if you save 5% on your property but also have 6 months reserves if you buy a place that needs a lot of work you can just do it all upfront and not have the need for the CAPX.  Do a new roof, AC/Heat and such, repalce it all by buying a cheaper property and you'll know the CAPX money youre setting back wont be needed but instead could be leveraged into the 3rd down payment.  

All of your money should be working for you, in some form or another.  

Loading replies...