BRRRR refinance confusion?

BRRRR refinance confusion?

Member since 2019 · 2 posts · 0 votes

My wife and I are just starting to get serious about REI. We are looking at different methods to invest. She is wanting to do traditional financing and I would like to do the BRRRR method. We decided to divide and conquer so we could each learn about different processes and discover our best method by teaching one another. I probably have basic questions for everyone here, but have read varied responses on the forums and heard different ideas on podcasts. I'm hoping someone can clear things up for me.

One thing we agree on is the structure of our business. We both want to have each property in an LLC. From research, the problem I have that I am having difficulty understanding is the refinance part of the BRRRR method with an LLC (and likely the same with traditional financing).My questions are the following:

  • 1.)If I buy a house and put it in an LLC, go through the BRRRR method, and get to the refinance, how will a bank refinance a house in an LLC? I read that someone called around and found a bank that would refi without the "due on call" clause, which is what I would want. I have read someone else negotiated one without the "due" clause (can you do this? And how?). Others have taken it out of the LLC, refinanced, and put it back in the LLC with the "due" clause (which is what I would want to avoid). I have no problem with calling or negotiating with a bank, but I'm not sure of the appropriate questions, negotiating process, etc. Anyone have any thoughts? Maybe I am over analyzing?
  • 2.)The same sort of question would be for my wife (she doesn't know I am asking this on here yet… ). If she wants to do a traditional finance on a property, how can she do that and put it in an LLC without the "due" clause? Seems to me she wouldn't be able, but I have not researched that method!

Thank you in advance for anyone who is willing to respond!

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  • Rental Property Investor · Steamboat Springs, CO · Member since 2014 · 278 posts · 100 votes
    7y

    @Adam Means

    Hey Adam and welcome to the B/P community! 

    1) Maybe I don't fully understand what you are asking but when you are refinancing typically you go with another bank or lending institution and they will pay off the first loan.  So the due on call should not make a difference. 

    You will probably pay higher rates if you hold the property in and LLC. Have you thought about just getting really good insurance and holding it in your name? not advising this but just trying to get you to think.

    2) I ran into that problem at one point. There was a time in my investing that I thought all my properties had to be in LLC's and when I tried to change it over my bank would not let me because of that clause. So I just got a $1M umbrella policy to cover me above and beyond my normal insurance.

    Good Luck! I think both are good plans, just make sure you do one of them!!

  • Member since 2019 · 2 posts · 0 votes
    7y

    Thank you for the information! I have read about the insurance policy. I was thinking of that. I was trying to find out the difference and see which method would be the best. I discovered a book that might help me more, just need a little time to read it now! Thanks again!

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