Contractor took my money!

Contractor took my money!

West Chester , PA · Member since 2017 · 104 posts · 19 votes

I own a rental and the roof was in bad shape and the insurance co notified me it needed to be replaced or they would drop us. No biggie, I new going into it that it would need to be replaced soon so I began getting quotes. I got 4 quotes and went with a roofer that came with a reference from 2 friends of mine who had experience with him before. Because of this, I somewhat slacked off in vetting him and hired him based on a good price and the scope of work he was including. 

I met with him, signed a contract and paid him half ($3,500) on the spot. We shook hands and he agreed he would start the job the next Monday and be done by Thursday. 

Well, Monday morning I get a text that he needs to get his permit in my county renewed and he can't start until later in the week. I was annoyed and somewhat skeptical but didn't think much of it. As the days ticked on he kept failing to start. He would text me 2 hours before he was scheduled to arrive that his delivery was late, he was sick, it was supposed to rain etc... 

Finally I fired him. I told him enough is enough its unacceptable that he hasn't started and I wanted to part way and get my money back. He apologized and said he would meet me the next day with my money. 

Of course, he called me 2 hours before we were to meet with a story, he ordered the material and couldn't get the money back, some bs about his bank account blah blah. 

I waited until the end of the day and called the cops and reported it. They called him but told me they couldn't do much and I needed to file a civil suit. This is my next step but it doesn't seem promising honestly. 

The roofer is still in touch with me daily. He answers every time I call and responds to every text apologizing and saying he's going to pay me soon, yet he keeps not showing up with the money. Everyday its another story about some loan hes getting and his family is helping but its obviously all BS.  The police won't help, I feel like suing him will take forever and won't be effective, and I still don't have my money.  

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Real Estate Investor · Austin, TX · Member since 2016 · 114 posts · 49 votes
7y

Police won't touch it unless he gives you a bad check (and even that depends on where you are).

A few things I can think of. One, if he claims he bought material, tell him to bring it.

Second, you mentioned he needed to renew his license. He may also have a bond on file, or insurance, that you can go after.

Lastly, small claims court. Assuming you got something in writing? If not, and you have witnesses, that's fine too. A trick with that is (again depending on state law) record a conversation or have someone in the room and phone on speaker with him promising a date to return your deposit due to him not starting on time. Just make sure you have single party consent laws.

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  • Real Estate Investor · Austin, TX · Member since 2016 · 114 posts · 49 votes
    7y

    Police won't touch it unless he gives you a bad check (and even that depends on where you are).

    A few things I can think of. One, if he claims he bought material, tell him to bring it.

    Second, you mentioned he needed to renew his license. He may also have a bond on file, or insurance, that you can go after.

    Lastly, small claims court. Assuming you got something in writing? If not, and you have witnesses, that's fine too. A trick with that is (again depending on state law) record a conversation or have someone in the room and phone on speaker with him promising a date to return your deposit due to him not starting on time. Just make sure you have single party consent laws.

  • Rental Property Investor · Central, FL · Member since 2016 · 950 posts · 821 votes
    7y

    If he has the materials then have him deliver them. If not file small claims and go from there.  you have a contract and proof he was paid.  Go get your money.  Sucks because you still need a new roof.  

  • Ned CareyPro Member
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    Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2008 · 17k+ posts · 13k+ votes
    7y

    @Vincent Plant the best advice was from  @Gagan P. I would just add that this is one of the risk of real estate. Sadly this is actually common. You need to vet your contractors thoroughly. 

  • Handyman · Pittsburgh, PA · Member since 2018 · 5k+ posts · 13k+ votes
    7y

    @Vincent Plant

    Happens all the time. The reason why he keeps on answering the phone and feeding you two-faced BS is that he's trying to stave off your taking action as long as possible, hoping you'll get disgusted enough to just walk away, that $3,500 is just an embarrassing business loss for you and you'll let it go without going after him in small claims court. As soon as you file papers, it's going to be, "How could you? I was SO CLOSE to paying you back! But now I can't, of course I have to save for my legal defense, to clear my good name..." It's all a line.

    He's back at the same bar he drank your money away at laughing with the rest of his useless sometime-contractor buddies about how smart he was to rip you off. Stop talking to him and call a local lawyer for a consultation. Pennsylvania is a dual-party consent state, for forget about recording his phone conversations for proof of breach of contract.

  • Jim HoganPro Member
    Investor · Malvern, PA · Member since 2014 · 108 posts · 42 votes
    7y

    @Vincent Plant

    File against him and post his name for the rest of us that are local. That way we won’t use him. Even if do or don’t get your money back by filing you have saved another person from the con artist

  • Real Estate Investor · Austin, TX · Member since 2016 · 114 posts · 49 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Jim Hogan:

    @Vincent Plant

    File against him and post his name for the rest of us that are local. That way we won’t use him. Even if do or don’t get your money back by filing you have saved another person from the con artist

     This.

    A "bad contractor database" is something that's needed, along with a "bad tenant database", because there's many things that don't show up on public records, but if investors can look up and contribute to a database, essentially like a credit bureau but 'members only', it may save many people money and aggravation.

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