Tear apart my initial estimating strategy. Help me learn please

Tear apart my initial estimating strategy. Help me learn please

Member since 2019 · 3 posts · 1 vote

This is a bit of a dual post between a new member introduction and starting out. My name is Jarid Sox. I am currently active duty in the USMC but will be transitioning out within the next several months. I have been listening to the BP podcasts during my commute and have read a few books including the book on Rental Property Investing by @Brandon Turner. I am moving to Montana after a get out of the military and am looking to invest in real estate through house hacking and buy and hold investing. I will be using a combination of VA loans and conventional loans to get started with multi-family residential and eventually multi-family commercial properties. I have a fair amount carpentry and DIY skills and a pretty robust inventory of tools to start with coupled with roughly 60k in capitol to start with. I am waiting until I am in the town that I am moving to actually pull the trigger on my first deal but I am trying to evaluate the market and find deals now. I am looking to get some advice and updates to my strategy.

Currently I am finding properties that have been on the market for a while and getting what they are renting for. I then run the numbers not for what the asking price is but what I can offer to make them follow the 2% rule, as well as 1.75% and 1.5%. I'm using 50% of the monthly total at 100% occupancy to account for expenses. Then, from the remainder I subtract mortgage, tax, and insurance. I'm planning on 20% down and calculate rough cash on cash ROIs from that. So far I have found 3 properties that I think I would have a fair chance of getting offers accepted on. One 4-plex, one 5-plex, and one 14-plex apartment complex. The lowest cash on cash in my figures for these 3 properties comes in at 12.7 with the way I am calculating. 

Does this sound like a fairly accurate way to calculate my initial deal or would you be factoring in other things as well? I understand that 50% for expenses is a very rough number and will vary depending on the property but it seemed to be a relatively conservative approach to start with until I come to know my market better. Any feedback is greatly appreciated!

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  • Investor · Belgrade, MT · Member since 2013 · 135 posts · 32 votes
    7y

    Jarid,

    Welcome, not sure where you are landing in Montana, but if it is Bozeman let me know. I think your approach is good. You could owner occupy one of the units in the plex and get 0 down with VA loan. make sure you have realistic property management fees (even if you are doing prop man, count it in) and repairs. I would never use 100% occupancy, count of 5% vacancy (more depending on market). Make sure the cash on cash return is good with these more realistic values. IMO 2% rule is hard to find and you can make good return at 1%. with no down on VA just being positive cashflow is good. Best of luck.

  • Member since 2019 · 3 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    @Patrick McGowen thank you for the reply. It’ll be about a month in Billings followed by heading up to Havre. With MSU-northern and the railroad there’s plenty of people always wanting to rent and not put down roots.

    Using a zero down VA is my plan for the first property and I may try to do it like a house hack as Brandon has described on multiple occasions. I'm decently familiar with that as it's how I bought my first house

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