$100 to $1 Million asap

$100 to $1 Million asap

Valparaiso, IN · Member since 2017 · 4 posts · 1 vote

Hello, first post on BP...

A little of my back story... I have been in the building trades for the last 15 years and Im quite good at what I do. I also have played poker for some side income for about the same amount of time. About 3 years ago I played a 100 dollar poker tournament that won me a seat into a 365 dollar tournament. I ended up getting second place for 70k.

So the next day I was looking on Craigslist and stumbled across a super property for 80k. 2500 sf farm house on 9 acres, 5 year old foundation, but a total dump inside but tons of potential and character. Ended up buying it with cash and closed a week later, it was my first real flip. I had just previously sold my house and I was living at my girls condo at the time so I was able to claim as homestead and was pulling in good money as an electrician so i decided to take my time with it and basically rehabbed it all myself over 2 years and avoided capital gains taxes.

I put 60k into it and sold it for 280 just after the 2 year point. I have since quit my electrical career started my own GC company. I use that company to do work for other people as well as work on my flips.

I'm only doing one flip at a time, paying cash, paying myself my hourly thru my GC company when house sells and putting the rest away to invest. Was planning on doing just doing flips, and multiple flips at once but I go thru workers like I do hair cuts, so i end up doing most all the skilled labor roles myself and contractors are very pricey in the area so that option isnt the greatest, so I recently came up with the idea stated below instead.

I have zero debt, and minimal monthly bills. I have about a 1/4 mil to invest with and want to build my portfolio steadily and efficiently and here is what I came up with...see any major flaws or adjustments In this theory?

Example. I buy a fixer upper for 40k cash with my rental company. Use my GC company to do the work which cost an additional 30k cash (paying myself an hourly) . All in for 70k. Fixed value is 100k.

Next find a tenant, and then take a hard money mortgage or standard mortgage on it for 80% of fixed value (80k) and add the difference of 10k ( 80k loan - 70k all in) to my 1/4 mil investment pool.

Then wash, rinse and repeat as many times as I possibly can.

With this theory, If I make sure my all in price after rehab is capped at 80% of fixed value, then I won't have to deplete that 1/4 mil, ill have 20% equity in each house, I'll be getting cash on cash returns to which ill add to the investment monies, and making enough off the GC company to pay my regular bills and what not. Seems pretty solid right?

Any advice is greatly appreciated

Thanks

Joe

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Karen MargraveBusiness Member
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Realtor, General Contractor, and Developer · Redding, CA · Member since 2009 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
9y

Sounds like quite a story! Maybe you can post some pics of your deals for all of us to see. I'd also suggest you fill out your profile and upload a photo to make it more personal. See you around the forums. 

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  • Karen MargraveBusiness Member
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    Realtor, General Contractor, and Developer · Redding, CA · Member since 2009 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    9y

    Sounds like quite a story! Maybe you can post some pics of your deals for all of us to see. I'd also suggest you fill out your profile and upload a photo to make it more personal. See you around the forums. 

  • Contractor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2015 · 887 posts · 323 votes
    9y
    Joseph Michaels if I'm reading correctly you want to refinance at 80% loan to value ratio? If so from what I hear you need to ensure you have found a bank that will do so. My credit union does but most do 70% if not 75%. Sounds like a plan- one that I am going to begin to implement. Best, Jorge
  • Investor · Orange County, CA · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    9y

    You need to watch tenant quality ... I'm not sure how it is in your area, but may be rough tenants at that price point. Rough tenants are high maintenance and are not a very stable source of income to pay your mortgage off for you and let you pocket a little extra. Flipping a $100k property is much different than renting a $100k property. So, I would see if you can do something similar on the nicer end of town where you will likely get better tenants. The downside is that the prices will be higher, and the initial cash flow lower on paper, but it will be steadier and higher quality cash flow with fewer headaches. 

    Also, you want to maintain plenty of cash flow, equity, and cash reserves in order to protect yourself when the market turns or something unexpected happens ... leverage must be managed very carefully and consciously because it can be a blessing or a curse to you, and cash flow alone is not enough to fully protect you.

  • Johnson City, TN · Member since 2014 · 586 posts · 705 votes
    9y

    I would concentrate on poker.

  • Valparaiso, IN · Member since 2017 · 4 posts · 1 vote
    9y

    It's not really a refinance persay since im buying with all cash and then getting a loan on final product. I have some private lenders that are willing to loan up to 90% actually. But i have also done some research on hard money lenders and they cap between 75-80%. also Originally posted by @Account Closed:

    Joseph Michaels if I'm reading correctly you want to refinance at 80% loan to value ratio? If so from what I hear you need to ensure you have found a bank that will do so. My credit union does but most do 70% if not 75%. Sounds like a plan- one that I am going to begin to implement.

    Best,

    Jorge

  • Valparaiso, IN · Member since 2017 · 4 posts · 1 vote
    9y
    Oh I still do, i travel the country and play frequently. I prefer to keep my eggs in many baskets though Originally posted by @Account Closed:

    I would concentrate on poker.

  • Valparaiso, IN · Member since 2017 · 4 posts · 1 vote
    9y
    Originally posted by @Karen Margrave:

    Sounds like quite a story! Maybe you can post some pics of your deals for all of us to see. I'd also suggest you fill out your profile and upload a photo to make it more personal. See you around the forums. 

    Will do! Thanks for the advice:)

    a couple of the farm house...

  • Karen MargraveBusiness Member
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    Realtor, General Contractor, and Developer · Redding, CA · Member since 2009 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    9y

    Great job! I guess you could have titled your post Poker to Monopoly! LOL Anyway, you've found the best site there is to further your education of the real estate game. We have people on here with experience in every conceivable niche of the market, and then some. I look forward to watching your progress. Also, on your next remodel, be sure to post it in Investor Deal Diaries so that people can follow along. Good luck

  • Mindy JensenPro Member
    BiggerPockets Money Podcast Host · Longmont, CO · Member since 2014 · 7k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    9y

    @Joseph Michaels , we call that the BRRRR method here at BiggerPockets.

    Buy

    Rehab

    Rent

    Refinance

    Repeat

    Many of our investors have had success using this method. How is the current market in Valpo?

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