Seeking first multi-family property in hot Market - Connecticut

Seeking first multi-family property in hot Market - Connecticut

Professional · Bridgeport, CT · Member since 2017 · 4 posts · 2 votes

Hi All!

Thanks for finding time to read this. I'm looking to buy my first multi-family investment property, most likely a duplex or triplex in Fairfield County, Connecticut. I would likely purchase with an FHA loan, since I do not have a lot of money to put down. I would like to rent out the other units while fixing up the unit I live in. I am a project manager for a high-end real estate development firm, so a value-add opportunity would be ideal, but on top of the down-payment, added capital expenses seem unrealistic for me. I know if I find the right property, forcing equity out of a rehab would be easy, but I'm still in the rat race looking to get through a large tax bill from last year (long story). I have access to potential investors, both clients and partners in our contracting business, as well as a mother, who says she will not invest in Connecticut, but I'm sure I can persuade her if I find the right opportunity.

If an investor is involved, I'll need guidance on structuring the deal the first go-around.  And no matter what, I need guidance on finding the deal!  I work so many hours, that I rarely can find time to hunt for properties.  My daily Zillow email is filled with overpriced properties.  Are people really buying multi-family properties for these prices?  It's insane.

 Part of me wants to do it alone on a property that does not require much capital expenses, but part of me knows I'll find the better opportunity if I aim a little higher and find a value-add opportunity requiring more rehabilitation.

On my own, the price-points I'm looking at limit me to certain areas. One area I'm looking at is a huge rental market given it's proximity to the beach and restaurants, bars, and night-life. It is also a relatively safe neighborhood, but the taxes are so steep that this area never seems to appreciate in value over a certain point. It's right on the border of the ghetto as well. This is Blackrock, a neighborhood of Bridgeport if anyone knows the area. Right now, it seems like the home values have peaked, and none of the listed sales prices seem to allow for ANY cashflow. Every potential deal I wander across gets eaten up by cash offers with no contingencies. One property looked promising but by day 3 on the MLS, there were over 10 cash offers.

I'm sure I already know the answer from all the books and podcasts I've read, but how do I find the deal without scouring the MLS? Should I start entertaining my potential investors with a vague idea of partnering, even without a property in mind? (sarcasm) Part of me wants to save up capital, get pre-approved for a bigger loan, find an interested hard-money lender, agree on the criteria and numbers we're looking for along with a reasonable agreement between me and the lender, and only pounce when the bunny rabbit of a deal comes hopping by. Just I want to hunt the rabbit and not wait! It's starting to seem like none of the numbers are going to work until the market goes through a correction, or I start throwing in low-ball offers and getting creative.

The scary thing is I'm finding myself secretly hoping that the market crashes so that I can get started.  Is that morbid?  I think it's positive thinking.

I graduated college when the market was at it's worst, and I had no capital!  I'm finally at the point where I can picture me being ready to act when home prices plummet again, but need help navigating this hot market.  I really want to get started.

Anyway, I look forward to being a part of the Bigger Pockets community!  Sorry for the long "intro". Any advice or even a conversation would be much appreciated!

Thanks,

Derek

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Rental Property Investor · Norwalk, Connecticut (CT) · Member since 2016 · 140 posts · 44 votes
9y
Derek I just bought my first duplex in black rock and I don't have a lot of money. So know it's possible !! I'm happy to help and advise. Private message me. You'll get there!
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  • Rental Property Investor · Norwalk, Connecticut (CT) · Member since 2016 · 140 posts · 44 votes
    9y
    Derek I just bought my first duplex in black rock and I don't have a lot of money. So know it's possible !! I'm happy to help and advise. Private message me. You'll get there!
  • Property Manager · Plantsville, CT · Member since 2016 · 84 posts · 66 votes
    9y

    Derek, 

    You need to work with an agent in the area and tell them you are going to go owner occupied. REOs sometimes come on with limited windows for owner occupied buyers only. Thus, you will not likely be competing with the cash/as is deals. I bought my first condo this way back in the day. 

  • Professional · Bridgeport, CT · Member since 2017 · 4 posts · 2 votes
    9y

    Thank you both Molly and William.  William, good to know there's a path there.  I would love to understand how to find foreclosures / pre-foreclosures. I have been working with an agent and will mention this to her and ask a few questions.  My current landlord owns a number of properties in Blackrock, and I want to approach her to see if she's potentially interested in selling any of her portfolio.  Maybe that could be a seller-financing opportunity.  We have a good relationship.  What do you think?

  • Rental Property Investor · Carlisle, PA · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 543 votes
    9y

    @Derek Kennedy, welcome.  I invest in Fairfield County as well.  It is getting much more difficult to finds deals that cash flow.  I think you are correct about the prices getting pretty steep.  I have been outbid on several deals in the past month with what I consider to be unreasonably high purchase prices. 

    I think it would be a great idea to talk to you landlord and tell her what you are looking for.  Even if she doesn't want to part with one of her properties, she may be able to help you find a deal from another source (other landlords, friends, etc...)

    Good luck!

  • Flipper · Bridgeport, CT · Member since 2017 · 21 posts · 9 votes
    9y
    I feel your pain! I put an offer in on reo owner occupied property on Thorme st on the north end on bpt. Within 7 days there were 35 offers and the property was bid up over 40k. I see bridgeport making a slight come up though. Steelpoint harbor, they are redoing that section across the street for the new ferry. I've noticed those big abandon buildings you can see from the highway are getting new windows and work is being done inside. As well as all the rehabbers fixing the eye soars. There are places that are not the ghetto but also not as good as black rock that you could get some good cash flow. Especially near sacred heart. I'm in the same boat and if I find something that works I'll be sure to post it here.
  • Professional · Bridgeport, CT · Member since 2017 · 4 posts · 2 votes
    9y

    Thanks for the advice everyone. I think finding a place near Sacred Heart would be great, or potentially around UB.  I'm also open to norwalk as I'm coming across some value-add / rehab potential. I picture the end of water street back behind Klaffs becoming popular since it's so close to downtown and that mall is coming soon.  I think Stamford will also continue to appreciate.

    The old norwalk area is growing so fast with all those new apartment/condo developments.

    Rick, I did touch base with Chris Reid. Hope to touch base again early next week.

    Thanks again!

  • Investor · Yonkers, NY · Member since 2016 · 41 posts · 7 votes
    9y

    Just purchased a 3 family 3 blocks from UB near the beach that cash flows decent . There are deals but you really have to look and if the numbers make sense then be aggressive. good luck   

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