Best markets to start BRRRR'ing

Best markets to start BRRRR'ing

Member since 2022 · 1 post · 2 votes

Hey everyone! My wife and I are looking to start investing this quarter. We've saved 250k and would like to invest out of state while keeping our California jobs and renting here. We're considering using the BRRRR method to start out and would like to have a diverse real estate portfolio in both the hot markets and less expensive markets.


Is it best to start at the more expensive markets (Denver, Texas, North Carolina, Florida, Phoenix, etc) that’ll have a lower cash flow, better appreciation, and possibly more money to take out on refinance. Or start at the less expensive markets (Mid-West AR, IN, OH) with a higher cash flow, but little appreciation, and be able to get a few more properties? We’d like to be in both types of markets, but are trying to figure out which one would be the best to start in to maximize our portfolio and then scale, while also keeping in mind that the market might go down for which we need to be able to hold and have cash reserves. Would appreciate your advice!

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Jonathan GreeneBusiness Member
Real Estate Consultant · Madison, NJ · Member since 2016 · 6k+ posts · 7k+ votes
4y

What do you want out of your first property? It doesn't seem like you need the cash flow right away so I would look at appreciating markets, not the hot markets. The towns behind the towns near the hot markets are where the big money is made. Can you buy in a major hot spot and appreciate? Sure. But would you do better finding the towns that are just starting to hit the radar? Yes, all day, every day. Right now, your focus is too wide. You just want to invest and build a portfolio. This puts you are risk for scammers and schemers telling you where to do something and for how much. Spend six months reading and interacting on these forums and in local meetups and clarify so you know what you want investment number one to be.

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  • Developer · Palm City, FL · Member since 2018 · 326 posts · 99 votes
    4y

    @William Harrison I am a realtor and investor in southeast Florida and my area has exploded with long and short-term rentals. Especially STR. I would be happy to answer any questions on my market. Feel free to connect.

  • Bakersfield, CA · Member since 2016 · 378 posts · 307 votes
    4y

    Ever consider central CA? There are some affordable markets there, and you'll be within a reasonable driving distance away from the property.

  • Investor · Marin County California · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    4y

    The most favorable terms available by far are for owner-occupants - lower down-payment requirements, lower mortgage interest rates and often lower property taxes and insurance premiums.  Consider starting the journey by buying a house to live in while you remodel and then rent it out after a few years.  This strategy has worked wonders for many.  

  • Jonathan GreeneBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Madison, NJ · Member since 2016 · 6k+ posts · 7k+ votes
    4y

    What do you want out of your first property? It doesn't seem like you need the cash flow right away so I would look at appreciating markets, not the hot markets. The towns behind the towns near the hot markets are where the big money is made. Can you buy in a major hot spot and appreciate? Sure. But would you do better finding the towns that are just starting to hit the radar? Yes, all day, every day. Right now, your focus is too wide. You just want to invest and build a portfolio. This puts you are risk for scammers and schemers telling you where to do something and for how much. Spend six months reading and interacting on these forums and in local meetups and clarify so you know what you want investment number one to be.

    Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing59 Reviews
  • Pat LulewiczBusiness Member
    Realtor · Raleigh NC and Greensboro, NC · Member since 2019 · 391 posts · 392 votes
    4y

    If you have a "high income" from your day job, I would recommend buying in appreciating markets before prices continue to rise and thereby your downpayment continues to rise. There could come a time where you get priced out of the market. I'm in Raleigh, NC and we have a neighboring city of Morrisville in the Raleigh MSA where properties have appreciated 25%-30% YoY with no plans to stop. So take your reasonable cash flow and appreciation potential now while that trend continues. In addition, there are many lenders who will cash-out refi you within 6-12 months so you could get some/all of your downpayment out assuming it'll still cash flow.

    To clarify "high income", something where y'all could comfortably buy 2+ more properties off cash-flow alone this year. You'll find that in appreciating markets like you're referencing, that $250K could be gone within 3-5 purchases.

    Reach out if you want to talk NC. We're seeing some of the strongest appreciation and rent growth in the county and I work with a handful of out-of-state investors who've been able to get in on some great rentals.

  • Joshua JanusBusiness Member
    Realtor · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2021 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    4y

    Columbus, Ohio is a great place to BRRRR into a STR as the demand is very high.

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