2 Properties - 1031 Exchanges - Need advice on what to do..

2 Properties - 1031 Exchanges - Need advice on what to do..

Tara KinneyPro Member
Rental Property Investor · Bettendorf, IA · Member since 2016 · 62 posts · 39 votes

Okay, 

So this may be a silly question, but I have found myself in a conundrum.   I recently sold two properties using the 1031 exchange, but didn't think this fully through.  So my plan was to use the equity to buy (finance) 3-5 more properties with the profit I received from those properties.

Problem - I can only have 4 financed properties in my name (mortgages), and I currently have my home with a mortgage, so that leaves me with only 3 properties I can buy.  The problem is most homes that I have found that profit that best in this area sell for between $60-$100K - which means I need $12-$20K for my downpayment.  So that's great... I can buy two properties with that first property that net me around $28K to use... however, my second property net me around $56K to use.   I can't buy three more properties with that because I can't finance that many properties.

So my question is - what would you recommend?  I don't see any quality multifamily homes listing in the range of $250-$275K - which is what the purchase price would need to be to use up my downpayment money.  The other option is to use that money to purchase a property outright, however I don't think I can do that with a 1031 exchange right?  The property I sold to get that money just sold for $174K so it is my understanding that I the purchase price of the next property (or combined properties) much be more than that.  Is that right?

Any advice on what are some good options would be appreciated :)

Thanks!

Tara

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Rental Property Investor · Howell, NJ · Member since 2015 · 61 posts · 15 votes
10y

Tara - I am nervous for you.  Are you fully educated on 1031s?  I suggest you hit the books ASAP, or consult a real estate attorney ASAP.  There are so many rules that govern a 1031 exchange, they can be daunting to navigate.  For starters, when you sell your property, you are not allowed to receive the proceeds from the sale.  They must never hit your account - you need an intermediary to hold the proceeds for you.  Have you done that part?  If not, you may have already disqualified yourself.  

Additionally, there are strict timelines about identifying, in writing, potential properties that you will exchange into.  Has it been more than 45 days since you sold?  Have you identified replacement properties?  Furthermore, you have a deadline of when you actually need to purchase the replacements.  Check out this site as just 1 of the tons of resources out there:  https://apiexchange.com/acquiring-multiple-replace...

And lastly, there is a HUGE false premise in your post:  "I can only have 4 properties in my name (mortgages)..."   That is absolutely false.  Mark Ferguson (I believe he has been a guest on a podcast here) writes a good blog named www.investfourmore.com that is predicated on the fact that there are ways to finance more than 4 properties.  Try a local bank instead of a big one.  

Hope this helps a bit.  Good luck

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  • Rental Property Investor · Howell, NJ · Member since 2015 · 61 posts · 15 votes
    10y

    Tara - I am nervous for you.  Are you fully educated on 1031s?  I suggest you hit the books ASAP, or consult a real estate attorney ASAP.  There are so many rules that govern a 1031 exchange, they can be daunting to navigate.  For starters, when you sell your property, you are not allowed to receive the proceeds from the sale.  They must never hit your account - you need an intermediary to hold the proceeds for you.  Have you done that part?  If not, you may have already disqualified yourself.  

    Additionally, there are strict timelines about identifying, in writing, potential properties that you will exchange into.  Has it been more than 45 days since you sold?  Have you identified replacement properties?  Furthermore, you have a deadline of when you actually need to purchase the replacements.  Check out this site as just 1 of the tons of resources out there:  https://apiexchange.com/acquiring-multiple-replace...

    And lastly, there is a HUGE false premise in your post:  "I can only have 4 properties in my name (mortgages)..."   That is absolutely false.  Mark Ferguson (I believe he has been a guest on a podcast here) writes a good blog named www.investfourmore.com that is predicated on the fact that there are ways to finance more than 4 properties.  Try a local bank instead of a big one.  

    Hope this helps a bit.  Good luck

  • Dave FosterBusiness Member
    Qualified Intermediary for 1031 Exchanges · St. Petersburg, FL · Member since 2013 · 9k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    10y

    @Tara Kinney, Your question's not silly.  It's fundamental to getting the most out of your exchange!  In order to defer all tax in a 1031 exchange you must do 2 things - First you must purchase at least as much as you sell (net sale before mortgage pay off).  Secondly you must use all your proceeds (cash after mortgage payoff) in the next purchase.  You can allocate the money to replacement properties in any way you want.  You do not have to replace mortgages if you have cash from another source.  

    You may use the money on two downpayments and purchase the 3rd one for cash.  Once you do this you can immediately refinance that property and use the refi as down payment on another property.

    I agree with @Daniel Karbownik.  Where is your qualified intermediary in all of this?  These are basic strategic questions that any good QI would be anticipating and guiding you through.   

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  • Investor · FL · Member since 2015 · 202 posts · 34 votes
    10y

    You should be able to have 10 mortgages, not 4.

  • Investor · FL · Member since 2015 · 202 posts · 34 votes
    10y

    You should be able to have 10 mortgages, not 4

  • Tara KinneyPro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Bettendorf, IA · Member since 2016 · 62 posts · 39 votes
    10y

    Thanks...I absolutely did my research and understand and did qualify for the 1031 exchange.  My lender told me that I could only have 4 mortgages in my name - so that was my only concern.   However, after looking at all the numbers, both in the real estate side and on my personal side - I ended up cashing out my 1031 exchange to pay off personal debt (car loan, equity loan and student loan).  

    Yes...I know I'll have to pay capital gains tax now and that sucks. But I decided that it would help me feel less stressed out personally...and it will be freeing up an additional $1500 per month - which if you figure - COC ROI = 20%. So that beats most of the real estate deals I've been looking at...and can get me back into the real estate game in another year or two with a lot less stress.

    Going to continue to come here and learn from everyone!  

    Thanks again!

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