Airbnb Renter is Doing Arbitrage - Now What?

Airbnb Renter is Doing Arbitrage - Now What?

Member since 2023 · 12 posts · 1 vote

Hi Everyone, 

This is new to me. I have a vacation rental which it’s the off season and I accept rents at a lower rate. I’ve had a tenant through Airbnb which has extended her stay twice (each a month) and has been giving feedback as to how great it’s been.

I come to find out (via a lead paint inspection and going down to check on the property) that she is 100% doing rental arbitrage which was not approved by me. I have seen 4 different sets of people and maintenance team said they saw others to.

My question is now what? I do not have a Ring camera (buying one now) and when I reported it to Airbnb they basically said if I can’t prove it there is nothing they can do.

Any suggestions?

Mike

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Investor · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2013 · 8k+ posts · 10k+ votes
2y

Live with it for 6 days until the end of the month and then raise the rent 30-50% or just don’t renew. I  Hate that they’re liars but most arbitragers are. Hopefully Airbnb’s insurance would still cover you. At least not as bad as someone scamming you on an LTR. Good luck. 

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  • Bruce WoodruffPro Member
    Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes
    2y

    So you let her become a tenant (by allowing her to stay over 30 days). Big mistake.

    But.....do you have a lease and what does it say? If you have no lease and only an ABNB agreement then what does it say?

    ABNB are crap in helping Hosts, so don't expect much help....but also don't give up. Escalate this until you get some help. Depending on state, you may be able to get help from the law....? Or hire an attorney.....

  • Investor · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2013 · 8k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    2y

    Live with it for 6 days until the end of the month and then raise the rent 30-50% or just don’t renew. I  Hate that they’re liars but most arbitragers are. Hopefully Airbnb’s insurance would still cover you. At least not as bad as someone scamming you on an LTR. Good luck. 

  • Theresa HarrisPro Member
    Member since 2019 · 15k+ posts · 11k+ votes
    2y

    Is there a way you can refuse her future bookings?  If it is up at the end of April, do not let her extend her stay under any circumstances and watch out for anyone booking it for 30 days as she may try to rent it under someone else's name.

  • Investor · Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 754 votes
    2y

    I agree with Bill. Let her ride out this current booking and then if she wants to extend or stay again, decline it and raise your rates a ton. In the meantime, gather evidence. 

    Also make sure your guests are signing a RA

  • Nathan GesnerBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Cody, WY · Member since 2010 · 28k+ posts · 41k+ votes
    2y
    Quote from @Michael LaMorte:

    You have a camera. Document every unauthorized guest and calculate what the rent income would be. Present your guest with the evidence and demand she (a) vacate immediately and (b) pay you the income those unauthorized guests generated. If she doesn't leave, evict. If she doesn't pay, consider taking her to small claims court.

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  • John UnderwoodPro Member
    Investor · Greer, SC · Member since 2014 · 13k+ posts · 17k+ votes
    2y

    I like the idea of extending with her if she wants to but raise the rates. Let her do the work and you make the money.

    You should have a LTR lease anyway for stays over 30 days.

  • John UnderwoodPro Member
    Investor · Greer, SC · Member since 2014 · 13k+ posts · 17k+ votes
    2y

    Definitely get the ring camera installed at first availability. 

  • Member since 2023 · 12 posts · 1 vote
    2y

    Thank you all. Thinking along the same lines. She did sign a rental agreement via AirBNB and my property manager. I think I have to ride it out. I am absolutely not going to allow an extension and watch for long rentals in the same vein. Luckily vacation market is picking back up for summer rentals (in NJ) so there isn’t an opportunity to book for a full month. I do plan on documenting any and all damage or expected damage and claiming upon cleaners getting in there.

    Appreciate all the feedback. Definitely a lessons learned to increase rate or not allow extensions if arbitrage is expected.

  • Andrew SteffensBusiness Member
    Tampa, FL · Member since 2022 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    2y

    Not sure about NJ rules on tenancy here but you could lock them out/remove them and secure your property (at least in FL).  You do not need Airbnb permission to do so.  However this far in with 6 days to go, just document everything to CYA and do not renew.

  • Member since 2023 · 88 posts · 62 votes
    2y

    Hi Michael,

    Sorry you're in this situation!

    A few things come to mind. Are you sure there isn't a clause in the rental agreement that states no subletting/arbitrage of your property?  What is your property manager actively doing about this situation?  What steps have they taken to remediate this for you?

    I would think according to Airbnb's terms of service, that this situation would not be allowed on their platform. You have eye witnesses (maintenance team) who can corroborate what you saw. Unfortunately, you have to call these OTA's many times over until you get a customer service rep who sympathizes, is knowledgeable about the platform rules and is willing to actually help you.

    If you don't want to ride it out, i think you have options. Out of principle, i personally would have hard time looking the other way and allowing this dishonest person to take advantage of my property like this.


  • Michael BaumPro Member
    Olympia, WA · Member since 2016 · 8k+ posts · 7k+ votes
    2y

    You could try charging her for the use. If she doesn't pay, take her to court. Max out the small claims limits where it is located and go to town.

  • Rental Property Investor · Phoenix, AZ and Rehoboth Beach DE · Member since 2019 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    2y

    As Monique said, it's standard in leases to not allow subletting.  Your property manager should be responsible for not having that clause in there!  You should also have in your house rules on Airbnb that the person booking has to be staying there, you will not allow third-party bookings even on short term rentals. Airbnb themselves do not allow that unless the booking party is registered for "Airbnb for Work".  https://www.airbnb.com/help/article/427 . 

    The other thing is, how come this lady is getting bookings at higher prices for the off season and you can't?  Before you shut her down, find out where she is advertising/listing your place and copy her in the future.

  • Sarah KensingerPro Member
    Real Estate Consultant · OH · Member since 2023 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    2y

    I won't even ask how this happened! If you really have a PM company managing this property, they need to go ASAP!!


    A lesson everyone should take....have smartlocks and ring cameras on every STR you host, so you know at all times what is happening at the property. Also, cleaners should always clean the property every 2 weeks with a month-long stay! Then someone gets eyes inside the property and has a good idea what is going on.

  • Bruce WoodruffPro Member
    Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes
    2y
    Quote from @Lauren Kormylo:

    The other thing is, how come this lady is getting bookings at higher prices for the off season and you can't?  Before you shut her down, find out where she is advertising/listing your place and copy her in the future.

    This ^^^^ Good point!


  • Mike GrudzienPro Member
    Lender · Eugene, OR · Member since 2019 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    2y

    Thank you everyone for all the tips!  
    I don't have an issue, but I learned a lot and will make a few changes.
    Mike

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