I too, find that to be an exciting part of the REI game.

Matt H, I know you said it seems like people are told to live below their means, that isn't true in my experience, instead they teach you to think about how you are spending your money, how you can cut back so that you can get out of debt and use the extra money to develop passive income streams to get financially free.

But the rejecting starts some political games in Europe...

The developer will end up dealing with these peopel anyway so it isn't wasted effort to get in touch with them now and see what they know.

We are working with an investor that is looking for land to develope an equstian resort as well as a golf course and sfr's.

interesting threadI retired 10 years ago from my day job, basically leveraging from my property investmentsIt look me 7 years but it was the fact that I jumped into booming markets that made a massive differenceMix this with some small development projects..... this is like investing on steroids, speeds the processI continue investing today and growing capital. 

As for real estate - I'm still trying to figure them out, but like you, both Trump and Lefrak are cool people to watch on the developing side.

After hearing people talk about how they made millions with RE investing, I just feel that I am missing out.Now, I have developed many contacts over the years with lenders, brokers, developers, lawyers and judges, investors etc.

I have serviced and been a party to over a thousand installment contracts, developed a program to guarantee these deals and have acted as a registered credit's representative in bankruptcy court to secure the interest conveyed under these agreements.

:D Learn your products well and work to develop relationships with people rather than try to"sell" them.Good luck.