If they self eliminate i’ve got my answer and i saved time.Applicants who have always rented have learned how to manipulate LL’s, they can be very convincing while lying like T****.OUT OF state applicants will show you fake photos of a lovely apt they are moving out of.

Denver is a really great STR and MTR market and Tampa has been touted as a fantastic market to get into this year. 

the market is def competitive as it is in winter park CO and its in one of the newer condo's touted as a "luxury rental"  so i am thinking Mountain Modern (i guess is the new term). 

I pass on properties typically where they tout value add but want a low cap and then if all goes perfect you then get a higher cap rate.

I looked into Cleveland and the numbers really scared the s**t out of me at first glance.

Full disclosure I have a whole life policy which I can use for this but they are not fantastic products like many tout them.

No professional real estate investor touts that.

A bit more context is Im experienced landlord in LA as Ive gone through the whole gamut of check boxes with this property (studs reno, relocating tenants, managing property, a second reno, lease renewals, emergency repairs, etc) So I have that to draw from, Ive also read the books touted on this site (OOS investing, landlording on autopilot) but as we all know, there is a gap between what the books say and what actually happens.

I think I have been touting Richmond for a few years now.  

I can pass along his contact information if needed.Jay Hendricks on BP has touted Visio Lending as well; I just called them (for my own benefit) for my BRRRR just to compare numbers.