Without experience the building at 90% occupancy could go down to 65% and then the seller who financed you has to foreclose and is worse off then when they started building it back up again.Hope it helps.

I am going to be an owner-occupant living in the upper unit.

It is easy to puff a property and get 100% full for a month or two and then dump a problem to a buyer. 6 to 12 months of proven occupancy or longer and payments is the real measuring stick that should be used for averaging.I see landlord pays some utilities.

The lender is probably pushing you towards owner occupant because it is probably much easier for you (and, by default, easier for him) to get a loan that way.

I have bought a property myself and also helped 4 investors/owner occupants secure properties on Hubzu.

If it is zoned in a triplex zoning district but is a quad and the town has issued a certificate of occupancy for four units than it is a legally non conforming use and you should be okay.Basically, you need to check with the town and make sure it is legally operating as a four unit building especially if you suspect they may only have authorization for 3 units.

Does any one know if rent stabilization applies in a 6 unit build in NYC with the owner living in 1 of the 6 and renting out 5 units?

Is that what you are getting at when you mention occupancy?

Kerry, I believe if it is a 2-4 property, FHA would only do 75% if your son needs you as non-occupant co-signer, much more (I think it's the 97% but could be less on a refi) if it's a single family home using a non-occupant co-signer, so looking for higher percentage of loan is probably going to be difficult no matter which one you choose.

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