Either job is tough I don't want to give the impression real estate is simple. its not and 50% that try it blow out first year.. but that's better than the 90% who try wholesaling blow whatever money they have and figure out its way to hard  and not really that profitable when you consider the fixed over head that has to keep on churning.Granted like all things cream rises to the top.. and there are wholesalers of course that make money and some in little honey hole locations will trade real estate like used cars.. by that I mean low value assets trading at 5 to 50k per house.. but that AINT the west cost. 

Also just started a flip outside of Richmond that should be ready in April and will post next year when that one is finished.Purchase Price- 3 bed 1 bath at $162,000Rehab- $+/- 7,000 (did all the work myself, design by my wife)Sale Price- $192,800Scope of work- Install cattle fence around 3 quarters of the property- 2.05 acres and fenced in run with chicken cooppaint every roomface framed the kitchen cabinets and painted two tone- Upper cabinets Cream/white  Lower cabinets Grayrecess lighting in kitchenadded new dishwasher (did not have one)moved the laundry room to better fit the kitchenrenovated the bathroom to include a window and concrete sinknew heat pump and furnace new wide updated trimpainted outside of the house and upgraded the landscaping 

Buy quality and be patient...lots of wholesalers and flippers are going to get CREAMED...again...just like last time because of time risk...buy and hold has far less time risk, but you still need a deal.

I know SD is ludicrous expensive but look wher you can locally or you may get creamed.

In other words are we in an Ice Cream Debate, with you attempting to confirm that REI is the best by denigrating stock investing?

Those are acceptible colors except the red...so cream, gray, sage.

I did a deal with a part timer who was working full time at an ice cream and sandwich shop. 

@Jeremy Segermeisterice cream sundae time Cash flow (money in your pocket each month) is the ice creamEverything else ( depreciation, debt pay down, deductions ) is the whip cream and cherry.

Health care insurance stocks are getting creamed also.This is 11th year into a growth cycle.

I suggest cream curtains in the living room to downplay the yellow.