Several months later I heard a BP podcast and thought that I should check out the site again to see what all the hype was about.

So I guess I'm believing the hype, but should I?

I respect all the experienced investors such as yourself and Ryan and understand you are trying to inject reality into the "hype" that is used by so called "experts" to merely sell their programs to excited "newbies".

I can imagine the kind of hype that has to be used to get a homeowner to agree to this stuff, I bet any judge can too.

ARV is hype that gets a ton of new investors in trouble.

I guess you put up with a lot of pitches & hype for the occasional nugget of wisdom that you glean.

It’s hard not to when you listen to their students bragging about them first… They are good people doing great things without the hype or drama…I remember being introduced on Ron LeGrands stage as his long time friend… I had never met the man before that introduction..

If he had been totally honest that it was just another sub2 course he wouldn't have had the hype factor.Never read his course and don't care, I doubt whether he added anything new to the subject that hasn't already been covered in detail somewhere by someone a dozen times.

Some see and hear alot of hype with no results too.Access is easier today with snail mail, e-mail, fax, cable and computers that make the competition fierce and the average homeowner savvy and informed.Investors are changing their strategy on marketing accordingly.Regards,

Sub2 certainly has its share however they’re more hype than reality.