Not trying to be harsh but if you have a goal and your are surrounding yourself with people who are not dreamer and do not support you in your goals then its time to slowly distant yourself from them.

It doesn't need to be harsh - it's simply factual. 

In the recent past, you had Nortel (RIP), and on the WABAC machine, Tandy.Arguments for: I agree with many that have been brought up in this thread - liking to solve puzzles and follow procedures, bigger salary means more money to spend on RE investing, having to go into management to make the really big bucks, having to relearn everything frequently, a bias against older engineers.I think another thing that affects software people, more than than ee/mech-e/civil/chemical, is outhousing and H1B. 

Not trying to be mean but its the harsh truth.

Again, this is not to be harsh and I hope they land on their feet.

A little bit about me, I graduated college with a Chemical Engineering degree and have been working as a Project Engineer in the automotive industry for almost two years now.

If you feel they're being too harsh, think about their intent.

what they could call utilities could be electric, gas, propane, trash...any of those items.well will have an electric expense, and the upkeep of adding chemicals, testing the water and different reports to the state

They have dip-strips that test for multiple chemicals and contaminants. 

We just have to keep doing our thing.....while just shaking our head the whole time.Side note....on our concrete pours here, as you probably know, the concrete heats up as it’s being mixed in the truck as the chemical reaction does it’s thing, and on gov’t contracts where the concrete can not exceed 90-95 degrees before being placed.....we have to start at 3:00-4:00 am, and the concrete companies are used to it.